Moviefanatic Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 There is no THG vs DH2. DH2 gross was just a benchmark.Qualitatively, HP1 is the movie which should be compared with THG since it is the franchise-setter. HG finale should be compared with DH2.Uh huh. Whatever you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangman Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 There is no THG vs DH2. DH2 gross was just a benchmark.Qualitatively, HP1 is the movie which should be compared with THG since it is the franchise-setter. HG finale should be compared with DH2.The only reason why "there is no THG vs DH2" because THG is going to pass DH2, which you said would NEVER happen. Get over it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDodsen Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 There is no THG vs DH2. DH2 gross was just a benchmark.Qualitatively, HP1 is the movie which should be compared with THG since it is the franchise-setter. HG finale should be compared with DH2.What I don't understand is how there is such a deep divide between Sorcerer's Stone and the rest of the series. Not just from movie grosses, tickets sold, but on books sold. Sorcerer's Stone is the only one in the entire series to have 100M+ copies in print. The rest are in the 75-85M range. Its the smallest book, yet it seems to be the most popular. I personally thought the later books - OOTP, HBP and DH were better written, but they didn't even come close to the amount of copies sold for SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 To be fair DH2 did really well but in terms of admissions its likley around GOF in admissions or around 2nd place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcalcagn Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 What I don't understand is how there is such a deep divide between Sorcerer's Stone and the rest of the series. Not just from movie grosses, tickets sold, but on books sold. Sorcerer's Stone is the only one in the entire series to have 100M+ copies in print. The rest are in the 75-85M range. Its the smallest book, yet it seems to be the most popular. I personally thought the later books - OOTP, HBP and DH were better written, but they didn't even come close to the amount of copies sold for SS.Well just in longevity, if you showed a comparison in how much in sold within the same timespan, Order of the Phoenix and Deathly Hallows would definitely be up there. And remember there WAS a huge wait between the fourth and fifth book that waned interested slightly.I've always been under the belief that Harry Potter was really helped out by being the first major blockbuster to come out after 9/11; families and everyone was still a little shook up from everything and the notion of being able to escape from reality and go into this magical world was just want the country needed. It's the same reason Fellowship of the Ring was received so well: an escape from reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 What I don't understand is how there is such a deep divide between Sorcerer's Stone and the rest of the series. Not just from movie grosses, tickets sold, but on books sold. Sorcerer's Stone is the only one in the entire series to have 100M+ copies in print. The rest are in the 75-85M range. Its the smallest book, yet it seems to be the most popular. I personally thought the later books - OOTP, HBP and DH were better written, but they didn't even come close to the amount of copies sold for SS.Since it's the first one in the series, that's the one everyone reads, but only a small number actually make it to the end of the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I would agree with that and really help explains why Spider Man 1 became such a big hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 No... the thing is THG won't come close to HP1 in admissions.It's looking to top out at around 50m... that's pretty damn close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockNrollaDIM Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 It's insane that Hunger will beat DH2. Absolutely insane. INSANELY AWESOME!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloneWars Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 What I don't understand is how there is such a deep divide between Sorcerer's Stone and the rest of the series. Not just from movie grosses, tickets sold, but on books sold. Sorcerer's Stone is the only one in the entire series to have 100M+ copies in print. The rest are in the 75-85M range. Its the smallest book, yet it seems to be the most popular. I personally thought the later books - OOTP, HBP and DH were better written, but they didn't even come close to the amount of copies sold for SS.People always start with the first book and as time goes on people realize the series isn't for them and don't continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcalcagn Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I would agree with that and really help explains why Spider Man 1 became such a big hit.Also a film helped greatly by 9/11; the quintessential Everyman superhero, and a New Yorker no less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 4 new openers. 4 new bombs.Relativity still has little idea on how to release a film. Immortals & Miror Mirror easily could have gone higher. The Raven could have at least pulled in From Hell numbers.Pirates! had a nice print campaign, and the trailers were expertly placed, but Aardman has only really successfully made one hit for the States.Didn't even know Safe was being released. Should've opened earlier in the year, maybe. Dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Yeah when holdover perform badly before a big opener...I wonder what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 (edited) It's sad that Pirates! is doing so poorly in the States (and mediocre OS), it really is an entertaining, funny and visually gorgeous film. And the fact that Madagascar 3 will triple it's numbers doesn't help much.. Edited April 28, 2012 by Jack Nevada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackspider Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Is the HP1 vs. THG debate really worth bringing up? HP1 is over 10 years old. The BO has changed a lot since then. 50m admissions is a lot tougher now than it was back then. To put it in perspective, THG will be the first 50m ticket seller since Avatar.Fake, we get it. You love HP beyond belief and defend it at every turn. But, you gotta let it go. You sound like a broken record player at this point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Didn't even know Safe was being released. Should've opened earlier in the year, maybe. Dunno.Statham is closer to the direct-to-DVD market for every new release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Is the HP1 vs. THG debate really worth bringing up? HP1 is over 10 years old. The BO has changed a lot since then. 50m admissions is a lot tougher now than it was back then. To put it in perspective, THG will be the first 50m ticket seller since Avatar.Fake, we get it. You love HP beyond belief and defend it at every turn. But, you gotta let it go. You sound like a broken record player at this point.I only brought that up because someone said THG will massacre DH2 in admissions.....THG had LOTS of casual viewers... DH2 mostly had hardcore fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moviefanatic Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 LOL...this summer should be very entertaining on here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 LOL...this summer should be very entertaining on here. Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackspider Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I only brought that up because someone said THG will massacre DH2 in admissions.....THG had LOTS of casual viewers... DH2 mostly had hardcore fanbase.I don't think that's true. DH2 had plenty of interest of casual moviegoers. It sold about 7m more tickets than DH1 did. The finale factor brought back people that weren't necessarily watching some of the later entries that had slowly diminishing ticket sales.And THG looks to finish right in the middle of HP1 and DH2 in ticket sales so this debate is pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...