Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. There were reports that Spectre's break even point was about 650 and this is similarly expensive so I'd guess that's about right. I think under GotG2 is a near guarantee, and under 800 is more likely than not.
  2. Does this go here or a new thread: http://deadline.com/2017/06/transformers-the-last-knight-opening-day-box-office-paramount-michael-bay-mark-wahlberg-1202117364/ $15m for wednesday which is about on pace for low to mid 60s
  3. Remember fast 8 ended up doing significantly less than presales seemed to indicate compared to other blockbuster movies, about 20-25% less (i recall many Force Awakens US/Can comparisons). TF may have Fast type walkups but it could very well line up more with other non-F&F blockbusters
  4. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-preview-transformers-5-looks-biggest-bang-overseas-1014891 The studio puts the film's budget at $217 million before a major marketing spend. According to prerelease tracking, the fifth outing in the franchise is projected to post a five-day domestic debut in the $70 million-$75 million range, notably behind than the $100 million North American launch of the last title, Transformers: Age of Extinction, over the three-day June 27-29 weekend in 2014 and the lowest in Hasbro toys-based series. Instead, The Last Knight — similar to recent summer tentpole Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales — is counting on sizable returns internationally, where Age of Extinction grossed a massive $858.6 million to become the first Transformersmovie to jump the $1 billion mark at the worldwide box office on its way to resting at $1.1 billion (bit of memory loss there, eh THR?) The Last Knight opens in its first 42 foreign territories this weekend, including a slew of major markets, such as China, the U.K., Russia, Australia, Germany, Italy, North Korea and Hong Kong.
  5. Based the midnight preview numbers for previous transformers movies a 70m 5 day opening would have about $5m in previews. But since it looks like 70 is too high I'll say $4.5m Also theaters aroundme dont do discount for tues/Wed openers, probably not monday either but I've never seen a wide monday opening here.
  6. BatB Fast 8 Despicable Me 3 just barely makes it Star Wars
  7. Jurassic world total after 3rd weekend 500.37339 / OW 208.8 = 2.3964 WW total after 3rd weekend 275.09558 / OW 103.2515 = 2.66432 JW made another 151.89 after its 3rd weekend / 3rd weekend of 54.5326 = 2.785 So far at least it seems like Wonder Woman should make at least 2.785 x 41.268 = 114.95 275 + 115 = 390 Avengers did about 4X its 7th weekend from then to the end, so GotG2 should reach or get close to 395 I'd say.
  8. 2nd biggest? And yeah, tracking's probably a bit high
  9. Transformers is tracking for 70m for 5 days, which would be high 40s for FSS, as low as 45 depending on how the days go.
  10. http://deadline.com/2017/06/cars-3-all-eyez-on-me-tupac-shakur-rough-night-scarlett-johansson-mandy-moore-47-meters-below-1202114764/ Universal’s threequel Despicable Me 3 arrives in 12 days with an expected three-day of $85M-$90M That would more or less match up with DM3 doing similar presales to SLoP
  11. 375
  12. I wouldn't bet on anything over 500 for now. 900-something worldwide
  13. I think it's as likely to be over 800 as under. But yeah, it's not gonna be close to a billion
  14. I think it'll be close, transformers should do pretty well until spiderman, and with july 4th on a tuesday it'll have a great 2nd week all things considered. I give last knight a very slight edge for now.
  15. Is it weird that all of a sudden I kind of want to go see last knight Tuesday or Wednesday, not sure where this came from, I didn't like 4 at all and I don't think 5 will be any good either. What's wrong with me