Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. 4-day opening has similar admissions to opening day for Pirates 2 in 2006. Pretty steep decline for a mighty franchise.
  2. They predicted 79/332 for Interstellar. Similar percentage gross compared to the 240 prediction for Dunkirk would be a 135 domestic gross.
  3. Signed contract? If that's the case, then they should file a lawsuit against IMAX. My guess is that there wasn't a signed contract or if there was, it has language that allowed IMAX to opt out.
  4. Except for the part where Dunkirk has 90 minutes of actual IMAX footage and Valerian has a bunch of goofy looking CGI.
  5. If 80 happens, then my 165ish prediction seems on track. AWE had a 2.02 multiplier from Memorial Day to final domestic gross.
  6. Begins paid the price for B&R's sins, but goodwill from that one helped lead to huge grosses for the two sequels. My point was simply that Begins had good legs and Pearl beat it by $100m from a very similar opening. Gives perspective on how crazy good Pearl's WOM was.
  7. Correct. Opened to around $70m in 5 days, similar to Batman Begins. Pearl grossed over $100m more domestic. BB was no slouch in the WOM department either, but Pearl was a straight up phenomenon.
  8. I'm not sure I can remember seeing a theater audience enjoy a movie as much as Black Pearl in summer 2003. That movie's WOM was not great, it was phenomenal.
  9. I would rank Black Pearl above all the MCU movies. Of the MCU movies, IM1 and TA1 are probably closest to Black Pearl for me.
  10. And the wife beater shtick is a problem too.
  11. I don't know if it will impact the box office at all, but it's sad to read that. Figured Depp was a smarter person than this. Hopefully he doesn't end up like Elvis or Michael Jackson.