Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. I'm one of the few people who have lots of problems with TDK but I fully realize most people would consider them nitpicks that they can fully ignore. We have to admit that if we're one of the only people with a problem with a movie and most people easily ignore that problem then it's a nitpick. If I say the lightsabers are too bright and ruin Star Wars for me, who fucking cares? The rest of the world doesn't have that problem, it's a personal nitpick.
  2. No, you call them visionary when they change the food industry and also create a golden age of burgers no other food can compete with.
  3. They're called perfectionist and they never make the deadline.
  4. J Edgar shows DiCaprio can have poor box office performances if he chooses a weak role but he's actually one of best modern actors at attracting quality roles and picking the one's with the most critical and financial rewards.
  5. Look at this summer. Superhero movies aren't hurting each other. They're hurting non-superhero movies. That's because more and more people only go to high quality superhero movies and ignore most the tripe Hollywood shovels their way. And I'm not just talking about fanboys and nerds. Superhero movies have become the ideal blockbuster experience and the typical studio production can't muster up the same buzz/hype/enthusiasm. If superheroes fall what superior genre will take their place? You can only make so many talking animal and Star Wars movies. There is a huge demand for superhero movies and unlike other genres there's an endless supply of comics to draw from.
  6. When everybody goes crazy over a movie and you bring up a criticism no one else cared to bring up, chances's a nitpick. Just sayin.
  7. I dunno. The poorly made movies will fail and the great ones will rise to the top. Competetition and dependence on the genre will improve quality (look at this year). Seems like a win-win.
  8. Typically if a movie gets over a dozen tweets claiming it's "the best ___ ever", it's not a fluke.
  9. Yup, that's Queens alright. I love it. Marvel Studios keeping it 100%.
  10. Iron Man and Spider-man interact all the time in the comics. Why not in the movies? And critics are saying SMH has plenty of surprises so I guess you're rooting against a good movie for no actual reason.
  11. Kevin Feige does it again. He'll go down as one of the greats of the industry. No doubt about it. Also kudos to the director. Welcome to the A list.
  12. Who's fighting? It's called debating. We challenged each other's points and hopefully learned more about the different positions including our own.
  13. Based on how enthusiastic the reviews are, I'd be surprised if this falls below 90%. Sounds like one of the best sci fi movies of the 2010's.
  14. Well if Michael Bay can do it, then so can someone else, someone with a superior imagination and storytelling ability. Alco if Spider-man got a reboot after making over 800 m and over 700 m then I wouldn't rule out Transformers which is looking at 650 m. Paramount is used to making almost twice that amount.