Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. 1. What will Guardians' total be at the end of the game? $375M 2. What will Baywatch's total be by the end of the game? $50M 3. What will 47 Meters Down's 3 day OW be? $250k 4. What will Wonder Woman's Second weekend percentage drop be? -45% 5. What will be the difference in gross between Alien Covenant and Power Rangers by the end of the game (No need to state which is higher)? $1M 6. What will transformers' multiplier be from it's opening Wednesday (So total gross by end of game divided by Wednesday gross)? 5.5x 7. What will Despicable Me 3's 12 day total be (The end of its second Sunday)? $200M 8. How many days will Spiderman make more than $1M? 28 9. What will Pirates 4th weekend gross be? $6M 10. How close will Spiderman, Wonder Woman, Apes and The Mummy's combined midnight preview totals come to $100M? $60M
  2. Part A: 1. Will Will Baywatch's 5 day opening (Wed-Sun) be higher than Pirates pure weekend (Sat+Sun only) gross? 1000 NO 2. Will Pirates Open to more than $65M? 2000 NO 3. Will Baywatch open to more than $32.5M? 3000 NO 4. Will baywatch and Pirates combine to more than $100M for the weekend? 4000 NO 5. On what day will Pirates' cumulative domestic gross overtake Baywatch's? 5000 FRIDAY 6. Will Alien drop less than 55% 1000 NO 7. Will Guardians drop less than 40% 2000 NO 8. Will Snatched stay in the top 6? 3000 NO 9. Will King Arthur drop more than 65% 4000 NO 10. Will Beauty and the Beast cross $500M domestic by the end of the weekend? 5000 YES 11. Will Boss Baby increase 100% or more on Saturday? 1000 NO 12. Will Everything Everything drop less than 45%? 2000 NO 13. Will The Hear after have a PTA above $5,000? 3000 NO 14. Will that Norman film drop less than 15% for the weekend? 4000 NO 15. Will Fate of the Furious stay above Boss Baby? 5000 NO 16. Will The Circle stay above Power Rangers 1000 YES 17. Will the Wall stay above the Zookeeper's wife? 2000 NO 18. Will Latin Lover have a PTA above $1,750? 3000 YES 19. Will Wimpy Kid have a larger Saturday percentage increase than Guardians? YES 20. How much Mermaid porn can we expect to see over the course of the two new openers? 5000 ENOUGH Bonus: 12/20 2000 13/20 4000 14/20 7000 15/20 12000 16/20 16,000 17/20 21,000 18/20 26,000 19/20 32,000 20/20 40,000 Part B: The top 3 predictions will score points as follows: Closest: Within 1% - 15,000, Within 2,5% - 12000, Within 5% 9,000, Within 10% - 6000 Outside 10% - 3000 points 2nd Closest: Within 1% - 12,000, Within 2,5% - 10000, Within 5% 7,000, Within 10% - 4000 Outside 10% - 2000 points 3rd Closest: Within 1% - 10,000, Within 2,5% - 8000, Within 5% 5,000, Within 10% - 2000 Outside 10% - 1000 points 1. What will Pirates make for its 3 day OW? $64.982M 2. What will Baywatch and Pirates' combined domestic totals be by the end of Sunday? $99.194M 3. What is Snatched and King Arthurs combined percentage drop be (e.g. if both drop 14% then the answer would be 28%)? 117% Part C: There will be 6 films to place and points are expanded because traditionally people haven't scored well here: 2. Baywatch 4. Alien: Covenant 6. Wimpy Kid 10. Furious 8 14. Lowriders 17. Going in Style Because I realised bonuses are stupid... 1/6 4,000 2/6 10,000 3/6 18,000 4/6 25,000 5/6 36,000 6/6 - 50,000
  3. Part A: 1. Will Alien open to more than $35M? 1000 YES 2. Will Wimpy Kid Open to more than $10M? 2000 YES 3. Will Everything, Everything open to more than $10M? 3000 YES 4. Will the three wide releases have a combined Friday above $25M? 4000 YES 5. Will Alien and GOTG2 finish the weekend within $5M of each other? 5000 NO 6. Will Snatched drop more than 55% 1000 NO 7. Will King Arthur drop more than 62.5% 2000 NO 8. Will F8 of the Furious stay above Boss Baby? 3000 NO 9. Will the Circle remain in the top 12? 4000 NO 10. Will the Wall stay above Made in China? 5000 NO 11. Will any new opener drop more than 30% on Sunday? 1000 YES 12. Will Baahubali cross $20M by the end of Saturday? 2000 NO 13. Will Wakefield have a PTA above $16,000? 3000 YES 14. Will Beauty and the Beast drop more than 30% for the weekend? 4000 YES 15. How many Covenant characters will have turned out to have graduated from the Prometheus school of Astronauting? 5000 ALL OF THEM Bonus: 9/15 5000 10/15 8000 11/15 12,000 12/15 16,000 13/15 20,000 14/15 24,000 15/15 30,000 Part B: The top 3 predictions will score points as follows: Closest: Within 1% - 15,000, Within 2,5% - 12000, Within 5% 9,000, Within 10% - 6000 Outside 10% - 3000 points 2nd Closest: Within 1% - 12,000, Within 2,5% - 10000, Within 5% 7,000, Within 10% - 4000 Outside 10% - 2000 points 3rd Closest: Within 1% - 10,000, Within 2,5% - 8000, Within 5% 5,000, Within 10% - 2000 Outside 10% - 1000 points 1. What will Covenant's make for its 3 day OW? $42.085M 2. What will Boss Baby's PTA be? $1,469 3. What will BATB's total domestic gross be by the end of the weekend? $498.371M Part C: There will be 6 films to place and points are expanded because traditionally people haven't scored well here: 1. Alien: Covenant 4. Wimpy Kid 6. King Arthur 9. Beauty and the Beast 12. Gifted 14. The Circle Because I realised bonuses are stupid... 1/6 4,000 2/6 10,000 3/6 18,000 4/6 25,000 5/6 36,000 6/6 - 50,000
  4. 1. Will Alien Covenant have a higher OW than Alien vs Predator ($38.29M)? YES 2. Will Alien Covenant's Midnight's be higher than Alien's OW ($3.52M)? YES 3. Alien Covenant's Domestic total pass Alien Resurrection's Total Domestic gross ($47.79M) within its first 10 days of release ? YES 4. Will Alien Covenant's 2nd weekend gross be more than half of Blade Runner's Total Domestic Gross ($16.43M)? 5. Will Alien Covenant's WW total overtake that of Aliens' WW total ($131.06m) the the end of the weekend? 6. Will Alien Covenant have a higher opening Sunday than Alien 3's Total UK Box Office ($12.76M)? 7. Will Alien Covenant have a better 2nd weekend drop than Prometheus (59.4%)? YES 8. Will Alien Covenant have a higher second Saturday gross than Alien vs Predator Requiem's total gross in Mexico ($5.19M)
  5. Everything, Everything - 50% (Should be 50% of budget now if I am not mistaken)
  6. Part A: 1. Will King Arthur Open to more than $20M? 1000 NO 2. Will Snatched Open to more than $20M? 2000 YES 3. Will King Arthur open to more than Snatched? 3000 NO 4. Will Lowriders open to more than $1m? 4000 NO 5. Will King Arthur and Snatched's combined 3 Day total come to more than GOTG2's combined Friday and Saturday? 5000 NO 6. Will Boss Baby drop less than 30% 1000 YES 7. Will Baahubali drop more than 65% 2000 NO 8. Will How to be a Latin lover stay in the top 6? 3000 NO 9. Will The Promise drop more than 75% 4000 YES 10. Will The Circle have a better weekend percentage drop than Fate of the Furious? 5000 NO 11. Will any new opener stay in second place for every day of the weekend? 1000 YES 12. Will Absolutely anything have a PTA above $4,000? 2000 NO 13. Will The Wall have a PTA above $6,000? 3000 NO 14. Will GOTG2 drop more than 60% for the weekend? 4000 NO 15. Will Liam Neeson get confused and try to rescue Amy Schumer and Goldie Hawn? 5000 NO Bonus: 9/15 5000 10/15 8000 11/15 12,000 12/15 16,000 13/15 20,000 14/15 24,000 15/15 30,000 Part B: The top 3 predictions will score points as follows: Closest: Within 1% - 15,000, Within 2,5% - 12000, Within 5% 9,000, Within 10% - 6000 Outside 10% - 3000 points 2nd Closest: Within 1% - 12,000, Within 2,5% - 10000, Within 5% 7,000, Within 10% - 4000 Outside 10% - 2000 points 3rd Closest: Within 1% - 10,000, Within 2,5% - 8000, Within 5% 5,000, Within 10% - 2000 Outside 10% - 1000 points 1. What will Snatched make for its 3 day OW? $22.2M 2. What will Lowrider's PTA be? $2,050 3. What will be the difference in gross between Arthur and Snatched's weekend totals (no need to say which is higher)? $4.725M Part C: There will be 6 films to place and points are expanded because traditionally people haven't scored well here: 2. Snatched 6. Beauty and the Beast 8. The Circle 11. Baahubali 2: The Conclusion 14. Going in Style 18. Get Out Because I realised bonuses are stupid... 1/6 4,000 2/6 10,000 3/6 18,000 4/6 25,000 5/6 36,000 6/6 - 50,000
  7. 1. King Arthur: Legend of the Sword 2. Everything, Everything 3. Baby Driver 4. It Comes At Night
  8. Part A: 1. Will Guardians make more than $130M? 1000 YES 2. Will Guardians make more than $150M? 2000 YES 3. WIll Guardians drop more than 15% on Saturday? 3000 YES 4. Will Guardians make more than 80% of the total gross of all films reported on BOM this weekend? 4000 NO 5. Will Friday account for at least 40% of Guardians' weekend gross? 5000 YES 6. Will Fate of the Furious drop less than 55%? 1000 NO 7. Will The Circle drop more than 60%? 2000 YES 8. Will Latin Lover stay about Baahubali? 3000 YES 9. Will Boss Baby increase more than 85% on Saturday? 4000 YES 10. Will the top 11 films all make more than $1M? 5000 YES 11. Will Gifted's PTA stay above $1,000? 1000 YES 12. Will Going in Style stay aboe Smurfs? 2000 NO 13. Will Free Fire make less than $75,000 for the whole weekend? 3000 YES 14. Will Logan stay above Colossal? 4000 YES 15. Will Power Rangers cross $85M by the end of the weekend? 5000 NO 16. Will Life have a PTA above $400? 1000 YES 17. Will Case for Christ have a PTA above $600? 2000 YES 18. Will CHuck have a PTA aboe $3,000? 3000 YES 19. Will 3 Generations have a PTA above $7,500? 4000NO 20. Will Ghost in the Shell have a PTA above $500? 5000 YES 21. Will Guardians' Actuals be Higher than the official final estimates for the weekend on BOM? 1000 YES 22. Will Fate of the Furious' first Deadline weekend estimate be within 500k of the actual total? 2000 NO 23. Will any film in more than 100 theatres drop more than 80%? 3000 YES 24. Will the whole weekend total of every film be above $185M? 4000 YES 25. How many Hobbits will ride Groot into battle during Guardians 2? 5000 0 Bonus: 9/15 5000 10/15 8000 11/15 12,000 12/15 16,000 13/15 20,000 14/15 24,000 15/15 30,000 Part B: The top 3 predictions will score points as follows: Closest: Within 1% - 15,000, Within 2,5% - 12000, Within 5% 9,000, Within 10% - 6000 Outside 10% - 3000 points 2nd Closest: Within 1% - 12,000, Within 2,5% - 10000, Within 5% 7,000, Within 10% - 4000 Outside 10% - 2000 points 3rd Closest: Within 1% - 10,000, Within 2,5% - 8000, Within 5% 5,000, Within 10% - 2000 Outside 10% - 1000 points 1. What will Guardians 2 make for its 3 day OW? $155.45M 2. What will Baahubali's Saturday gross be? $1.744M 3. What will The Circle's percentage drop be? 67.7% Part C: There will be 6 films to place and points are expanded because traditionally people haven't scored well here: 3. How to be a Latin Lover 5. Baahubali 2: The Conclusion 8. Gifted 10. Going in Style 13. Sleight 16. The Case for Christ Because I realised bonuses are stupid... 1/6 4,000 2/6 10,000 3/6 18,000 4/6 25,000 5/6 36,000 6/6 - 50,000
  9. PART A: 1. King Arthur - $67M 2. Lowriders - $15.3M TOO HIGH 3. Snatched - $85M TOO HIGH 4. Diary of a Wimpy Kid - $32M TOO HIGH 5. Everything Everything - $26M TOO LOW 6. It Comes at Night - $39M TOO HIGH 7. Captain Underpants - $93.5M 8. All Eyes on Me - $49M 9. Rough Night - $80M 10. Cars 3 - $180M PART B: 1. Which film not called Lowriders will be the lowest grossing? Diary of a Wimpy Kid 2. Which non-animated film will be the highest grossing? Rough Night 3. Will a non-animated film on that list make the main games Domestic Top 15 list? NO 4. Will any film double its predicted gross? NO 5. Will any film fail to reach half of its predicted gross? NO 6. Will the actual combined total gross for the 10 films be higher or lower than the predicted total gross? LOWER 7. Percentage wise, what will be boxoffice.com's best prediction? Cars 3 8. Percentage wise, what will be boxoffice.com's worst prediction? Everything Everything 9. Will 3 or more of these films open in the number 2 position? NO 10. Will 2 or more of these films open in 5th or lower? YES