Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. So glad that UK's second biggest screen will make an exception and will show Dunkirk. Can't wait to see it in glorious 70mm in the Science Museum.
  2. Seems like DCU is outgrossing MCU's first phase even if Aquaman does Thor numbers. JLA could walk to 400m with ease if doesn't suck.
  3. TF under Mummy's OW Fri-Sun? At this rate Top Gun 3: Maverick 2 is happening.
  4. It's gonna underperform nearly everywhere. Doubt it hits 750m WW at this point.
  5. Part A: 1. Will Transformers' 5 day opening (Wed-Sun) be higher than Pirates 3 day OW ($62.9M) gross? Yes 2. Will Transformers Open to more than $50M for its 3 Day? No 3. Will Transformers' Wed+Thursday total be more than 27.5% of the total gross by end of Sunday? Yes 4. Will Transformers gross more on Friday or Saturday? Saturday 5. Will Transformers have a daily PTA above $4000 for every day of the weekend? No 6. Will Cars drop less than 50% Yes 7. Will Guardians drop less than 45% Yes 8. Will Cars stay in the top 2? Yes 9. Will The Mummy drop more than 62% No 10. Will all Eyes on me drop more than 64%? Yes 11. Will 47 Metres Down have a PTA above $2,250? Yes 12. Will Rough Night drop more than 55%? Yes 13. Will anything in its 2nd weekend drop less than 42%? Yes 14. Will All Eyes on me cross $50M by the end of the weekend? No 15. Will Baywatch stay above Book of Henry? No 16. Will The Mummy stay above 47 Metres Down Yes 17. Will Captain Underpants have a higher weekend percentage drop than Megan Leavey? No 18. Will The Big Sick have a PTA above $8,000? Yes 19. Will The Beguiled have a PTA above $11,000? Yes 20. How many sets of dangling robot testicles will it take for both Ethan and Baumer to hate this film? 101 Bonus: 12/20 2000 13/20 4000 14/20 7000 15/20 12000 16/20 16,000 17/20 21,000 18/20 26,000 19/20 32,000 20/20 40,000 Part B: The top 3 predictions will score points as follows: Closest: Within 1% - 15,000, Within 2,5% - 12000, Within 5% 9,000, Within 10% - 6000 Outside 10% - 3000 points 2nd Closest: Within 1% - 12,000, Within 2,5% - 10000, Within 5% 7,000, Within 10% - 4000 Outside 10% - 2000 points 3rd Closest: Within 1% - 10,000, Within 2,5% - 8000, Within 5% 5,000, Within 10% - 2000 Outside 10% - 1000 points 1. What will Transformers make for its 5 day OW? 67.4M 2. What percentage of Transformers' 5 day gross will be made on Wed and Thurs? 35.2% 3. What will be the difference in percentage between Wonder Woman's percentage drop and The Mummy's (so if WW drops 75% and Mummy 50% the answer is 25%, order doesn't matter)? 12.12% Part C: There will be 6 films to place and points are expanded because traditionally people haven't scored well here: 2. CARS 3 5. THE MUMMY 7. PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES 10. GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 2 12. THE BOOK OF HENRY 15. M. LEAVEY Because I realised bonuses are stupid... 1/6 4,000 2/6 10,000 3/6 18,000 4/6 25,000 5/6 36,000 6/6 - 50,000
  6. Mummy is having ok legs actually.
  7. Agreed. There's no way at this point it does more than WW globally.
  8. It's gonna be more of a thriller than a war movie. Another Nolan masterclass. Reinventing war storytelling.
  9. That is not a good number for TF. Not that reviews matter to that franchise but they are awful and guarantee a huge decrease. WoM will be meh at best. This might not even hit 150m domestically.
  10. DCU just getting started, tracking ahead of MCU and WW seem to be beating every single MCU standalone film. Impressive. This baby might even challenge GotG 2. Wowza.
  11. AM looks fun. Could be a sleeper hit.
  12. Hampstead could potentially do well. TF will have a significant decrease from the last one.
  13. Mummy is actually having ok legs in China, will overtake WW soon.
  14. Cruise is the biggest box office star in history. Hanks second. Smith had a good spell but faded. Leo has a shot. Cruise has a dozen of yearly top 10 hits, over 20 films past 100m, just as many over 200m WW. Mummy didn't become a success, but 300m in two weeks is a decent run amidst negative reviews. MI6 might pull career best numbers but a true triumph would be to guide American Made to 100m. That's what's Cruise really good at, films like The Firm, Vanilla Sky, Collateral all hitting 100m.