Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. Birmingham Alabama area update #3 Thursday Previews : 30 showtimes - 0 sellout. This is a little bit less than Suicide Squad and obviously less than the other major CMB blockbusters. Friday showtimes : 83 showtimes - 0 sellout. This is about half of GOTG2 and roughly 25-35% lower than SS, BvS and CA:CW. I'm still thinking around 110-125M$ OW.
  2. I'M cheering for this movie. Besson has always provided interesting movie and this one looks good.
  3. Birmingham Alabama area update #2 Thursday Previews : 26 showtimes - 0 sellout. Only one theater updated their numbers, but I expect a huge update Tuesday morning to reach at least 40 showtimes. Friday showtimes : 42 showtimes - 0 sellout. No change although I expect theater owners to update their showtimes Tuesday morning and this will jump significantly to around 100 showtimes. This is still lower than other CBM blockbusters but I expect a lot of walk ups considering early reviews are raving over this movie.
  4. All right guys, sorry for spoiling this, but apparently Wonder Woman doesn't in this movie and will appear in Justice League! Who would have thought???
  5. Not much to talk in the last 3 weeks. Suicide Squad has passed both BvS and CA: Civil War in $ while trailing them in units. Same situation with Secret Life of Pets and Finding Dory. Zootopia is still the animated king of 2016 for the moment with 98M$, mostly due to very strong DVD sales compared to Blu Ray. On another note, Frozen is now only 19M$ away from reaching 400M$, the first movie to reach this mark since the first Narnia movie in 2005. Avatar is only 5M$ away but Frozen has gotten 23M$ in sales since Sept 2015 while Avatar has gotten a meager 4M$. Despicable Me has become only the 2nd movie released since 2010 to reach 200M$ on DVD (Frozen being the other one). Toy Story 3 with 191M$ should be the next (and probably last) one to reach it when the sequel gets released. Here's the latest combined chart.
  6. It's a small market indeed. It helps give an idea, but it doesn't guarantee that it will represent the country as a whole.
  7. Birmingham Alabama area presales update #1 Thursday Previews : 22 showtimes - 0 sellout. This is somewhat lower than the last major blockbusters that I've been tracking (SW:TFA - 85 shows, BvS 35 shows, Civil War 37 shows, SW:R1 51 shows and GOTG2 32 shows) at 7 days before release. Although expectations for this movie were originally not in the same ballpark as these blockbusters. Let's see how this evolves during the next couple days. Friday showtimes : 42 showtimes - 0 sellout. About 60-80% of what BvS, Civil War and GOTG2 had at the same point. Seeing this I have a hard time with some of the high OW predictions. First prediction is 110M OW - 325M DOM.
  8. Pretty devastating news. I'm a big fan of Snyder and I hope he can get though this. I don't know how I would cope if I was in his place.
  9. Was that Jeff Goldblum dancing in the credits? Edit : IMDB confirms it. Wonder why he was in the credits but not in the movie. Guessing a scene he was involved got deleted.
  10. Birmingham Alabama area update #6 Thursday previews showtimes : 51 shows, 1 sellout Friday opening day showtimes : 154 shows, 0 sellout Concerning Thursday previews, GOTG2 basically sits between BvS (40 shows, 1 sellout) and Civil War (57 shows and 2 sellouts) with one more day for theaters to report new shows or sellouts. This is looking strong. Concerning Friday previews, GOTG2 now has more shows than both BvS (120 shows, 0 sellout) and Civil War (143 shows, 0 sellout). This is still way far behind TFA (172 shows, 14 sellouts). I'm upping my early prediction of 150M OW / 380M DOM to 170M OW / 410M DOM.
  11. I don't know about previews though. Do you have previews numbers from Civil War, BvS and Suicide Squad? That would help me compare.
  12. Birmingham Alabama area update #5 Thursday previews showtimes : 46 shows, 0 sellout Friday opening day showtimes : 133 shows, 0 sellout GOTG2 now has more showtimes on Thursday and Friday than BvS had even though it has not confirmed a sellout as of now while BvS recorded its first sellout 2 days before opening. Civil War had more showtimes and sellouts at this point. I believe GOTG2 will open to roughly the same OW as BvS at this moment.
  13. Birmingham Alabama area update #4 Thursday previews showtimes : 39 shows, 0 sellout Friday opening day showtimes : 64 showtimes, 0 sellout GOTG2 has almost has many Thursday showtimes has BvS had. This is looking better and better. Still lower than Civil War.