Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. Generally when people say "substance" they mean characters they cared about and a story they found to be compelling. Substance is pretty subjective actually.
  2. Just tell her it's for work. Just you know leave out that it's for the volunteer job for the online forum.
  3. Just as a reminder there is a BOT movie planned for LA, probably at the CityWalk theater, for DUNKIRK IMAX on it's OW. @Telemachos @grim22 @Dexter of Suburbia @kowhite@Jay Hollywood
  4. Part A: 1. Will Transformers' 5 day opening (Wed-Sun) be higher than Pirates 3 day OW ($62.9M) gross? NO 2. Will Transformers Open to more than $50M for its 3 Day? NO 3. Will Transformers' Wed+Thursday total be more than 27.5% of the total gross by end of Sunday? YES 4. Will Transformers gross more on Friday or Saturday? FRIDAY 5. Will Transformers have a daily PTA above $4000 for every day of the weekend? NO 6. Will Cars drop less than 50% YES 7. Will Guardians drop less than 45% YES 8. Will Cars stay in the top 2? YES 9. Will The Mummy drop more than 62% YES 10. Will all Eyes on me drop more than 64%? YES 11. Will 47 Metres Down have a PTA above $2,250? YES 12. Will Rough Night drop more than 55%? YES 13. Will anything in its 2nd weekend drop less than 42%? NO 14. Will All Eyes on me cross $50M by the end of the weekend? NO 15. Will Baywatch stay above Book of Henry? YES 16. Will The Mummy stay above 47 Metres Down NO 17. Will Captain Underpants have a higher weekend percentage drop than Megan Leavey? NO 18. Will The Big Sick have a PTA above $8,000? YES 19. Will The Beguiled have a PTA above $11,000? NO 20. How many sets of dangling robot testicles will it take for both Ethan and Baumer to hate this film? IMPOSSIBLE Part B: 1. What will Transformers make for its 5 day OW? $62.58 million 2. What percentage of Transformers' 5 day gross will be made on Wed and Thurs? 40% 3. What will be the difference in percentage between Wonder Woman's percentage drop and The Mummy's (so if WW drops 75% and Mummy 50% the answer is 25%, order doesn't matter)? 32% Part C: There will be 6 films to place and points are expanded because traditionally people haven't scored well here: 2. Cars 3 5. All Eyez on Me 7. POTC5 10. Captain Underpants 12. Baywatch 15. Book of Henry
  5. I'd ughh watch that. And I'd drag @Telemachos along.
  6. He's in the Criterion Collection so by definition he is one of the GOATs.
  7. I like the title. It sounds cool and it makes me more interested to watch it.
  8. Nah that's not what people mean when they say substance.
  9. No one really can.
  10. There are plenty of big blockbusters with both but I can't think of one recently where people complained there was too much substance, not enough style.
  11. TF1-3 are dumb but fun and the action scenes are good, TF4 was dumb and hella boring. But yeah it's the whole "style over substance" that most people have a problem with.