Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. The closest would probably be May 2007, where Spider-Man 3 opened to 151m (OW record at the time), followed two weeks later by Shrek 3 doing 121m, and then Pirates 3 the next week with 127m 3 day/153 4 day (BOM has it opening to Thursday to 13m, with a weekend gross of 114m, but today, that Thursday night figure would be rolled into the weekend numbers). Adjusted, those openings are 194m, 156m, and 164m/196m before 3D/IMAX/PLF, so it's definitely possible to see multiple mega openers opening back to back. Obviously, the reception to those three movies was not as good as their immediate predecessors, and I would like to think Han Solo and Deadpool 2 would be better received. Although if we're being honest, I am almost certain Han Solo will end up being moved to December, just like the previous 3 Star Wars movies before it.
  2. Just wanted to point out that, with Fate of the Furious having just crossed 1 billion dollars OS this weekend, the Fast and Furious franchise has firmly cemented its place as the number 1 OS franchise for the time being, beating out Marvel, Star Wars, Wizarding World, and others. The only franchise in the foreseeable future that could top it is Avatar.
  3. Yeah, I doubt Star Wars will reach the levels TFA did overseas again, at least for the foreseeable future. In English-speaking countries where the OT has cultural value, TFA was record breaking, putting up performances equal to or even greater than its domestic performance, relatively speaking. All those countries will undoubtedly decrease, just like DOM will, and in countries where Star Wars isn't a part of the culture (Asia and Latin/South America), SW is simply one franchise among many. Right now, my predictions for Episode 8 and 9 are in the 800-900m range.
  4. We can talk about China all we want, but the fact that the Fast and Furious series crossed 1B OS with back to back entries shows that it is currently the number 1 player overseas, ahead of Star Wars, Wizarding World, Marvel, whatever else. Really crazy to think that a (originally) domestic-centered franchise with such humble beginnings is now the biggest overseas franchise out there.
  5. What happened to Memorial Day weekend? It seems like not too long ago, this was prime real estate for studios. But the past few years, Memorial Day weekend has just been full of flops and disappointments. Why the change?
  6. Wait, so F8's actual OW was $199.9m... That sucks.
  7. So unless I'm mistaken, Avatar 5 is now the furthest away film with a set release date. Just a fun bit of trivia.
  8. People have been talking about superhero fatigue for a decade now, literally since SM3/IM1/TDK days. The numbers clearly show that there is no sign of fatigue. I don't know why this gets brought up so often.
  9. Can someone tell me if the Marvel Studios intro logo is the same one used from Doctor Strange? A simple yes or no will suffice please.
  10. It's almost poetic how BATB will cross the 1B threshold the day before the very next 1B grosser will be released.
  11. What's up with the whole Smurfs replacing other words thing going on across the site? Did someone hack the sight or something? Cause if not, I think that's very unprofessional and annoying to force people into a meme, one that isn't particularly funny in the first place.
  12. On the subject of kids are back in school in September (mid August where I live actually), kids are in school in February, March and April, but as the past few years have shown, movies can still make bank while kids are in school. Guardians and Suicide Squad have shown that August isn't the barren wasteland it was thought to be in the past, and it's only a matter of time before someone schedules an appealing movie in September that makes a lot of money. It, while it might be open to insane numbers, looks like it could be really leggy. But a big September OW is not that far away, I feel.
  13. What's it take around here for someone to get rid of the "Part 1" in the thread title? It hasn't been that for months now, and many people, including myself, have been inquiring about it for almost as long.
  14. In the past few years, the grosses have shown that if the studios release a quality product (or at least one the GA seems to enjoy), then people will see it. January, February, March, and April used to be avoided, but the in the past few years, we've had movies break out, or at least open, to record breaking numbers, such as American Sniper, Deadpool, The Hunger Games, Alice in Wonderland, Batman v Superman, Furious 7, and most recently, Beauty and the Beast. With the summer and holiday seasons being more packed than ever, studios have to expand outside of the typical release frames. It's only a matter of time before we see movies grossing 70+m OW in September and October, which are the last two months that do not have a movie with at least 85m OW. It's not the date, it's the movies. If Star Wars opened in the middle of September, it would still make 200+ OW. As for this club, based on the gigantic number of trailer views, nostalgia, and an empty September, I will say in, with 60/175 for It.