Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  2. TF could end up in 120s too. 55-60 5-day and 2.1-2.2x the 5-day would give 121-132.
  3. Considering TF5 opened, I don't see anything wrong with -36% of Cars3 on a 1st Wed. TF5 opening is too big a factor to ignore even if the opening is underwhelming. I think both Thu and Fri will surprise for Cars3 but low 50s drop seems inevitable.
  4. TF2 jumped 26% on Fri...why would this jump 81%? I think even if does better, then it should do +35% from Thu.
  5. I thought TF5 would go below Dom, match POTC OS-Ch and crush it China to take the WW crown handily. TF5 below POTC5 WW is a shocker imo. Of course, WONDR WW gonna beat both! WONDR POTC5 TF5 ... I thought the order would be reversed. 125-135 dom + 280-300 Ch + 270-310 OS-Ch = 675-745 for TF5 seems like it. POTC5 looking at 750-765 imo unless it does surprisingly bad in Japan. WONDR over 770+ (380+ dom and 390+ OS .... was on 300 OS after a ~40 weekend and 10+ to come from Japan and Spain combined).
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  7. Great poster, and I the title. Pretty dramatic. Whose kingdom has fallen? LOVE THE TAGLINE.
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  10. but should be far less front-loaded than WC...right?
  11. BB spin off opposed to TF6 is a good opportunity for that.
  12. Agree with all you have mentioned. Was just focusing on the reception. This has a good shot at being called 'best after SM2' irrespective of how many folks watch it.