Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. I just like to take any opportunity I can to talk about how Boss Baby is going to both bomb and flop.
  2. Boss Baby's final gross is going to be under B&TB's first weekend, likely well under. I don't think it'll be killing anything's legs.
  3. Out. Passengers - 36/128 Assassin's Creed - 21/65
  4. At this point, with all of Zootopia/Finding Dory/Moana looking like locked-in contenders and the tendency of voters in this category to reward skilled animation over script (see, the Lego snub), I think this category probably results in the biggest WTF of the year as the vote split between the three allows Kubo and the Two Strings to take the win.
  5. It's gonna be Lego Batman. GotG holds mostly flat from its first installment, hitting 350 or so. Spider-Man: Homecoming suffers a bit from the Batman Begins effect and does around 300. Justice League has the biggest opening yet for the DCEU but suffers from the same bad legs as the others in the franchise. Lego Batman brings in both the kids and the geeks to take in over 450M and take the Silver for 2017's overall box office race.
  6. Expect those lower-than-expected Friday numbers on Blair Witch to keep declining through the weekend. Just got out and word of mouth on this might be Fan4Stick-level bad.
  7. Out, 105M or so. This will have zero crossover appeal.
  8. Predictions for RT scores when all is said and done: Moana - 96% Sing - 91% Storks - 72% Trolls - 36%
  9. 1. Star Wars: Episode VIII - 870M 2. Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - 435M 3. Lego Batman - 390M 4. Justice League - 365M 5. Beauty and the Beast - 360M 6. Wonder Woman - 345M 7. Despicable Me 3 - 330M 8. Spider-Man: Homecoming - 325M 9. Fast 8 - 318M 10. Thor: Ragnarok - 288M Honorable Mention - Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets (13th place, 245M, biggest surprise of the year)
  10. It feels like La La Land is going to run away with this, probably with Denzel winning Best Actor to minimize the backlash.
  11. I think the reason Ocean's 8 is being received better is because people felt the male version had run its course after three installments, and there's no real reason not to do something new. With Ghostbusters, fans had been wanting a new installment in the main franchise for a long time. It never quite happened, and when a new movie finally came along, it was not only with a new cast, but a complete reboot that no one really wanted and discounted the originals completely.
  12. Are you familiar with the term "black swan"? A unique, rare event that is impossible to predict. That's what Fan4stick was. Word of mouth was so bad that people were returning their tickets for Friday after hearing Thursday reports. There was NO way Ghostbusters was ever doing those numbers, barring apocalyptic critical response. Their biggest mistake was doubling down on making this a Paul Feig movie as opposed to a reboot/sequel to a beloved franchise. Thus, it performed like a Paul Feig movie, instead of the blockbuster it needed to be given the budget.
  13. 1. Suicide Squad - 49.1M 2. Pete's Dragon - 39.8M 3. Sausage Part - 23.5M 4. Florence Foster Jenkins - 12.3M 5. Jason Bourne - 11.6M 6. Bad Moms - 8.8M 7. The Secret Life of Pets - 6.9M 8. Star Trek Beyond - 6M 9. Lights Out - 3.1M 10. Nine Lives - 2.7M
  14. I'm thinking roughly 140-160M, more if it gets Oscar noms. Out.