Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. There's some rumblings from Hong Kong of the Umbrella Movement stalwarts wanting to boycott Vegas to Macau III, something about the director recently saying he doesn't care about the HK grosses being only 1/25th of the Mainland's. While it may be true, that's a terribly arrogant and insensitive thing to say, for a guy who actually grew up in and started his career in Hong Kong. for shame. Wong Jing!
  2. I mean...what??? When is this supposed to hit screens? Renny Harlin directs Jackie Chan and Johnny Knoxville in SKIPTRACE
  3. The bigger question is, how much $ has DWA and its Chinese partners sunk on ODW and how does that compare with the KFP "profits?" I think DWA ran into some rough seas last year and downsized, they were pinning on KFP3 hitting major pay dirt in China (I recall firedeep saying there was footage of Jeffrey K insinuating to Raman Hui KFP3 may outgross Monster Hunt, and honestly, that was the vibe on KFP3 leading into the new year), now that it hasn't taken shape, what happens next?
  4. Yes, Dragonboat weekend and also weakened competition until July Summer holidays with which it partook in even for a week or so. It was the last Hollywood flick in June and no rev share imports came in till Aug with Termina-turd. That it was a Summer spectacle and had CG dinosaurs might've helped too. KFP is going to be under siege once the CNY movies pile in...WOM is not the issue here, it's the rather low occupancy it is toting on its day and date opening with the US. My 2 cents.
  5. I forgot to say, DWA had their pick of the release date, that's not rare for a Hollywood flick, that's NEVER happened before! All because of its local film status, and they just wasted it. Also don't say animated sequels have less multipliers than live action...again, this ain't supposed to be no Hollywood flick, everything they have done since KFP2 was to position this as a local film through and through and perhaps the animated flick that doesn't need to have any of the animated film's usual maladies.
  6. Sorry Tigerpaw...just means the last 6 months taught us all to pause and take note of the market's fickle tendencies, it maybe is hitting some form of a bottleneck or people's tastes changing for the better. I'm slightly more pessimistic with KFP3 in particular and do not for a sec go with the "oh it's animated it is supposed to start slower" or "it's animated the multipliers will be higher" theories. KFP3 was seen as the silver bullet to all these animated flick syndromes. It was NOT supposed to behave like a Hollywood imported animated flick, with its cultural relevance, local connections (ODW and friends have been drum banging on this for years) and they sure did a lot of things around it. Ultimately the market turned on them, I think firedeep may have a point on the date, if true that DWA decided against China Film's plans. CFG may have done some things to remove a competitor or two instead the big movies in CNY will slice Po's legs right off. I hope I'm wrong but I do think KFP3 transformed from success story to cautionary tale over the course of this weekend.
  7. I'll be more worried about how DW is going to keep Shrek's, Madagascar cancelled and now KFP3's surefire status in China crashed and burned...where do they go from here? Don't blame Fox they did not make these movies...they probably didn't decide either for US and China and a handful to go first and the rest to go to market in March. FF7 really got many greedy and think that China is going to be easy and automatic, well guess what?
  8. Boohoohoo, I feel bad the movie made only 6.2 Million HKD on the first day (with midnights) and will probably need another day to surpass the highest grossing installment in the series.
  9. Apparently there's a cuss word in the dubbed version of the one movie no one is talking about -- SpongeBob, is this right or a prank? Read it on weibo...
  10. At 8pm the Maoyan numbers aren't that close 22.5 for Our times and 18.5 for JB24 for the day.
  11. I think Fox semi-tried, but fact is they had two films releasing within days of each other. I'm wondering if they regret pushing for Peanuts now that Scorch Trials got shoved down early Nov...guess not, better to have a flop than see the slot go to another studio and succeed? Oh and no one in this forum commenting on Everest?