miketheavenger

With Gemini Man and now this flopping hard, how much longer until Paramount gets bought by another company (hopefully not Disney this time)?

3rd trend: #1: It 2: 600k #2: Lion King: 155k #3: OuaTiH: 150k #4: Toy Story 4: 105k #5: Good Boys: 95k #6: Angel Has Fallen: 75k

3rd trend has Hollywood a little lower, but the other movies a bit higher: #1: OuaTiH: 190k #2: Lion King: 125k #3: Good Boys: 102,5k #4: Hobbs & Shaw: 80k #5: Toy Story 4: 80k

I wish Germans were even close to be as cinephile as the French are.

I wonder how much of Django's success had to do with Christoph Waltz. He came off his Oscar for Inglourious Basterds and of course won another one for Django. He probably added more interest than some people think. Hollywood should be fine mostly because of Leonardo DiCaprio. Wolf of Wall Street and The Revenant did really well here, so the guy is clearly a big draw.

3rd trend has the top two a little lower: #1: Lion King: 525k #2: Hobbs & Shaw: 450k incl. previews #3: Leberkäsjunkie: 210k #4: Pets 2: 110k #5: Benjamin Blümchen: 90k

3rd trend: Lion King: 600k Pets 2: 115k Spider-Man: 100k Yesterday: 55k Die Drei !!!: 45k

3rd trend is much better for the top movies: #1 Spider-Man: 450k incl. previews #2: Pets 2: 260k (nice increase) #3: Annabelle 3: 120k #4: Aladdin: 57,5k #5: Drei Schritte zu Dir: 55k #6: Traumfabrik: 40k #7: John Wick 3: 25k

I think we can say that since everybody in the industry seemed to think TS4 would open to $140m+, this opening weekend is an underperformance. However, that doesn't mean that the movie is a flop or a disappointment because that $140m is just one random mark that these people set for this movie to be a success for them when in reality opening with $120m will also make it a big success. Do you actually think Disney is gonna be disappointed with this start? Of course, they would've loved for TS4 to crush records, they always want every movie to make as much as it possibly can. But they also know that that is wishful thinking and that sometimes movies are gonna miss expectations. But again, missing expectations and flopping/underperforming are two very different things.

I really like the first two Shrek films, but they can't compare to the majority of Pixar's work or some other Dreamworks films (like HTTYD for example). That being said, IMO Shrek is still quite relevant today and I actually think a great Shrek 5 could do Incredibles 2 numbers with a big nostalgia boost.

I feel like if TS4 really opens to $200m, it has a strong chance of ending up No. 2 for the year domestically because that would lock 600m and make 650m+ very likely. And I'm still not convinced that Lion King, Frozen 2 or Star Wars will be able to get to that mark (Lion King probably will).

2nd trend: #1: Aladdin: 275k (still excellent) #2: John Wick 3: 185k (it increased from the first trend) #3: Godzilla 2: 150k #4: Rocketman: 145k #5: Pokemon: 105k

That's not saying much considering how atrocious last year was. But yes, it's at least a little positive sign.

2nd trend now has Aladdin and John Wick at 375k each, so a Little lower than before, but still pretty good. Also Pikachu stays the same and Endgame increases slightly.

So Aladdin is probably going to do Solo numbers for the Weekend, but should have much better legs. At this point I would be surprised if it ends up below 250m DOM.

I'm with reddevil on Black Widow. I don't think it's gonna be that big mostly because it'll likely have a relatively small scale compared to other CBM. And that could hurt it overseas, especially in Asia. It will likely also have a low Budget, though, so of course it'll still make money. I could see Minions 2 winning the year WW. People still love those little yellow buggers.

I must admit, I caught up in the first Hype around Pikachu and originally predicted huge numbers, but in the last few weeks I've dialed back on that. And These numbers Show that I did good in doing so. But like @baumer said earlier, $50-60m OW for a Video game/family film like Detective Pikachu is solid (though I'm still wondering why Warner Bros. spend 150m on this film). As for Endgame, I'm not surprised that it's gonna end up with Age of Ultron legs. No matter how massive Marvel's fanbase might be at this point, it's still the 22nd movie in a giant franchise that includes tons and tons of references to those other films. It's gonna have a limited audience (even though that limit is obviously incredibly huge). Overall, Endgame has destroyed every prediction by a mile and it also has defied historical trends (Sequels to mega hits always decreasing). That alone is a huge accomplishment and a testament to Marvel's incredible work building this world over the past decade.

What's interesting is that we could end up with three different movies in the biggest grosses category. Force Awakens DOM, Endgame WW and Avatar OS. That would be kind of cool to see.

Due to the Fox deal they now control Avatar as well though. As always, Disney wins, regardless of what happens.

2nd trend a Little lower for Endgame, but still fantastic. #1: Endgame: 950k #2: Collini: 100k #3: Monsieur Claude 2: 85k #4: After: 75k #5: Royal Corgi: 75k

So it looks like a CM over WW domestic Club would've been a very interesting read. Gonna be a really close race between the two.

*takes a peak in the thread* *sees people arguing whether Alita is better than Captain Marvel* *leaves thread*

2nd trend: #1: Der Junge...: 325k (-28%) #2: Aquaman: 150k (-50%) #3: Robin Hood: 130k #4: BR: 100k (-4%)

3rd trend: #1: Der Junge...: 420k #2: Aquaman: 275k #3: Mary Poppins: 200k #4: 100 DInge: 155k #5: The Grinch: 150k #6: Bumblebee: 125k #7/8: Fantastic Beasts 2/Feuerwehrmann Sam 3: 115k #9: Bohemian Rhapsody: 100k #10: Der kleine Drache Kokosnuss: 85k

I may be a bit late on this, but Happy New Year everybody! Hopefully you'll have a great one.