Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. The latter (lower admissions per capita) was my question.
  2. Why is Germany weaker on a per capita basis as compared to the other major European markets like UK and France?
  3. Why the strong Russia opening?
  4. What are the service fees and why aren't they included as part of the official total gross?
  5. Wonder where it found the extra ~$5m OS all of the sudden.
  6. This being a massive success has always made total sense to me - it's just a total slam-dunk concept that's rife for comedy. I remember seeing the (hilarious) ad campaign and thinking it was going to be big (but not THAT big). The movie itself still holds up on repeat viewing even 20 years later.
  7. Thanks! I thought Titanic had grossed over $70,000,000 in USD back in 1998? Was that somehow not enough to qualify for this list or is there a cut-off?
  8. Yeah, those are valid points to consider, and I'd never presume to understate how huge Batman's opening was at the time. I was moreso referring to the percentage increase from record-holder to record-holder over the past few decades: 2015 The Force Awakens $247,966,675 +18.8% 2015 Jurassic World $208,806,270 +0.7% 2012 The Avengers $207,438,708 +22.6% 2011 Deathly Hallows - Part 2 $169,189,427 +6.8% 2008 The Dark Knight $158,411,483 +4.8% 2007 Spider-Man 3 $151,116,516 +11.4% 2006 Dead Man’s Chest $135,634,554 +18.1% 2002 Spider-Man $114,844,116 +27.2% 2001 Harry Potter $90,294,621 +25.2% 1997 The Lost World $72,132,785 +36.7% 1995 Batman Forever $52,784,433 +12.2% 1993 Jurassic Park $47,026,828 +2.9% 1992 Batman Returns $45,687,711 +12.8% 1989 Batman $40,489,746 +37.4% 1989 Ghostbusters II $29,472,894 +0.4% 1989 The Last Crusade $29,355,021 +11.4% 1987 Beverly Hills Cop II $26,348,555 +4.0% 1984 The Temple of Doom $25,337,110 +10.1% 1983 Return of the Jedi $23,019,618 +60.4% 1982 Star Trek II $14,347,221 +1.7% 1981 Superman II $14,100,523 +18.2% 1979 Star Trek $11,926,421 +15.1% 1978 Superman (Week 3) $10,363,384 +0.9% 1978 Every Which Way But Loose $10,272,294 +1.0% 1978 Star Wars (Re-Issue) $10,166,336 +3.0% 1978 Jaws 2 $9,866,023 +37.1% 1977 Star Wars (Week 11) $7,195,573 +1.9% 1975 Jaws $7,061,513 -- Or if you'd like to include preview amounts: 2015 The Force Awakens $247,966,675 +18.8% 2015 Jurassic World $208,806,270 +0.7% 2012 The Avengers $207,438,708 +22.6% 2011 Deathly Hallows - Part 2 $169,189,427 +6.8% 2008 The Dark Knight $158,411,483 +4.8% 2007 Spider-Man 3 $151,116,516 +11.4% 2006 Dead Man’s Chest $135,634,554 +18.1% 2002 Spider-Man $114,844,116 +27.2% 2001 Harry Potter $90,294,621 +20.9% 1997 The Lost World $74,699,969 +41.5% 1995 Batman Forever $52,784,433 +12.2% 1993 Jurassic Park $50,159,460 +5.1% 1992 Batman Returns $47,720,711 +11.7% 1989 Batman $42,705,884 +44.9% 1989 Ghostbusters II $29,472,894 +0.4% 1989 The Last Crusade $29,355,021 +11.4% 1987 Beverly Hills Cop II $26,348,555 +4.0% 1984 The Temple of Doom $25,337,110 +10.1% 1983 Return of the Jedi $23,019,618 +60.4% 1982 Star Trek II $14,347,221 +1.7% 1981 Superman II $14,100,523 +18.2% 1979 Star Trek $11,926,421 +15.1% 1978 Superman (Week 3) $10,363,384 +0.9% 1978 Every Which Way But Loose $10,272,294 +1.0% 1978 Star Wars (Re-Issue) $10,166,336 +3.0% 1978 Jaws 2 $9,866,023 +37.1% 1977 Star Wars (Week 11) $7,195,573 +1.9% 1975 Jaws $7,061,513 -- In either case, ROTJ broke the previous record by what is (by far) the largest margin of any film dating back since 1975. Its theater count would be equivalent to ~2,500 in today's climate, which is still fairly wide despite not reaching full saturation.
  9. Hmm wouldn't that honor go to ROTJ? It broke the previous OW record by over 60% (the highest percentage increase for any film that's held the record going back at least since Jaws in 1975) and still holds the record for highest adjusted theater average ($63,085) for any wide release in history.