Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. dunno, I only found out about it when I drove into work and noticed our flag was at half mast. Ive only spoken to one person about it and she was mostly angry at the fact that this terrorist was bombing children. terrorist attacks in the west have all been in general public, buses/planes/airports etc but this was deliberately targeting young teenage girls. It is the worst attack since the bus bombings in 2005 so I imagine its quite serious.
  2. He was complaining about people showing sympathy for Zack Snyder's child while there was a terrorist attack on children here last night. Wasn't saying anything unreasonable imo but it was not needed in the thread and the mods here are pretty sensitive about anything they disagree with so he got banned.
  3. That's... not really the generally accepted idea of "fantasy". Usually means; 1) sword and sorcery; 2) not in this world
  4. fantasy movies always bomb. I don't know why studios are even making them at all any more. Very sad as I love the genre. I'm glad there are still some being made but I don't see any financial sense in it. The idea of 7 King Arthur movies was a joke to begin with. its just not financially viable. aside from LOTR series, the biggest hit recently has been Warcraft, which may or may not have broken even, and even that has had no progress on a sequel.
  5. I enjoyed it, pleased to see Ritchie's films getting a bit better these days.
  6. - Awesome cameo from Katie McGrath - Not awesome cameo from Guy Ritchie - Bizarre cameo from David Beckham I enjoyed the movie.
  7. gibs me the 225K 1. Will Alien Covenant have a higher OW than Alien vs Predator ($38.29M)? NO 2. Will Alien Covenant's Midnight's be higher than Alien's OW ($3.52M)? NO 3. Alien Covenant's Domestic total pass Alien Resurrection's Total Domestic gross ($47.79M) within its first 10 days of release ? NO 4. Will Alien Covenant's 2nd weekend gross be more than half of Blade Runner's Total Domestic Gross ($16.43M)? NO 5. Will Alien Covenant's WW total overtake that of Aliens' WW total ($131.06m) the the end of the weekend? NO 6. Will Alien Covenant have a higher opening Sunday than Alien 3's Total UK Box Office ($12.76M)? NO 7. Will Alien Covenant have a better 2nd weekend drop than Prometheus (59.4%)? NO 8. Will Alien Covenant have a higher second Saturday gross than Alien vs Predator Requiem's total gross in Mexico ($5.19M) NO
  8. Damn, we're in week 3 already? Time has flown by, I forgot to do the previous two weeks lol. Whoops. Part A: 1. Will Alien open to more than $35M? YES 2. Will Wimpy Kid Open to more than $10M? YES 3. Will Everything, Everything open to more than $10M? NO 4. Will the three wide releases have a combined Friday above $25M? YES 5. Will Alien and GOTG2 finish the weekend within $5M of each other? NO 6. Will Snatched drop more than 55% NO 7. Will King Arthur drop more than 62.5% NO 8. Will F8 of the Furious stay above Boss Baby? NO 9. Will the Circle remain in the top 12? YES 10. Will the Wall stay above Made in China? NO 11. Will any new opener drop more than 30% on Sunday? NO 12. Will Baahubali cross $20M by the end of Saturday? YES 13. Will Wakefield have a PTA above $16,000? NO 14. Will Beauty and the Beast drop more than 30% for the weekend? NO 15. How many Covenant characters will have turned out to have graduated from the Prometheus school of Astronauting? 1 Bonus: 9/15 5000 10/15 8000 11/15 12,000 12/15 16,000 13/15 20,000 14/15 24,000 15/15 30,000 Part B: The top 3 predictions will score points as follows: Closest: Within 1% - 15,000, Within 2,5% - 12000, Within 5% 9,000, Within 10% - 6000 Outside 10% - 3000 points 2nd Closest: Within 1% - 12,000, Within 2,5% - 10000, Within 5% 7,000, Within 10% - 4000 Outside 10% - 2000 points 3rd Closest: Within 1% - 10,000, Within 2,5% - 8000, Within 5% 5,000, Within 10% - 2000 Outside 10% - 1000 points 1. What will Covenant's make for its 3 day OW? 61M 2. What will Boss Baby's PTA be? $1,279 3. What will BATB's total domestic gross be by the end of the weekend? $498,999,999 Part C: There will be 6 films to place and points are expanded because traditionally people haven't scored well here: 1. Alien: Covenant 4. Snatched 6. King Arthur 9. TH3 F8T3 0F TH3 FUR10U5 12.The Circle 14. Smurfs Because I realised bonuses are stupid... 1/6 4,000 2/6 10,000 3/6 18,000 4/6 25,000 5/6 36,000 6/6 - 50,000
  9. Disney should threaten the public with releasing Pirates of the Caribbean 5 and hold our integrity to ransom.
  10. The aliens (well not the little one) were played by actors in costumes. Are you sure you're not just using another excuse to rip on CGI needlessly?
  11. I thought it was a good effort to resolve the problems of Prometheus (or rather, just avoid them completely), in that it doesn't try to ask as many big, vague questions. It's just a straightforward kind of B-movie. I don't really feel as strongly about the film as others since I don't really have anything invested in the franchise. I mean I didn't even clock that this is the creation of the xenomorph in this movie. I just took the film at face value, it was fine, enjoyable as an action-horror film.
  12. I enjoyed it. Big improvement on Prometheus and actually felt like an Alien film too. (Despite it being a direct sequel to Prometheus)