First of all, making "all time classics" is not the only way to prove someone's filmmaking talent. And what's the absolute standard of all time classics? Is there an irrefutable criteria for judgment? I've seen bunch of people who think Bay's films like Armageddon & Bad Boys etc are timeless classics. Some of them are just average Joe, but some of 'em are passionate moviegoers and even filmmakers. So are their opinions relevant? Or not? You talk like you're enumerating some objective facts like "water is wet." But actually it's just opinion. Even "The Rock is a cool action movie" is not a factual account of events. It's just subjective view which I agree with. I know Bay is not a favorite figure to many moviegoers and critics. But nobody has to follow critical consensus and I think it's one of the great thing about art. I think some opinions which take for granted that he's an just awful & negligible figure are pretty ridiculous.