Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. I'm not particularly proud of the fact that these are the only two films yet on the list that I have seen. To add to that, I Saw them both for the first and only time on the same night, back to back, on the night of New Year's Eve 2010-11. Quite a coincidence.... Hated both of them instantly.
  2. Alright then. I still can't say I agree since it doesn't necessarily have to mean that the person with a bigger list has watched more shows but I'd rather not argue further. Its ok with me if that's how you want to do it.
  3. Yes, thats exactly what I have a problem with and what I pointed out in my post. Why so? Why must there be so much difference in the value given to the 10th ranked show of these two lists? In both the cases the 10th ranked show is the 10th best show that that person has ever seen. Lets say both the list's makers had seen an equal number of shows (which I believe is what we must assume since we have no other knowledge of this), the former having made a smaller list only because he had lesser free time and lesser excitement for this or something. In such a case why must a show deemed by one to be the 10th best they have ever seen be given lesser value than a show deemed the same by someone else just because they made a bigger list? Basically this deems the former's list worthless. His say on the 10th best show ever is worth only 1 point compared to the latter's 91. What's even the point of it then?
  4. Why that scoring though? That scoring gives too much weight to the total number of shows you put in your list. The difference in the points for rank 10 from a list of 10 and that from a list of even the very next order - 25, is too much. I see the sense in giving more worth to a bigger list as it might show that that lists maker must have had seen a lot more shows which does, ideally, mean that his rankings hold more value by default. But the difference in value is a little too much here. And anyways that point doesn't hold up perfectly here anyway. There could be loads of other reasons why someone made a smaller list such as scarcity of time. In the end its your list and your choice and I'll be submitting one anyway if I find the time but I really think we should have another scoring method.
  5. Best Picture 1 MoonLight 2 Manchester by the sea 3 La La Land 4 Arrival 5 Lion 6 Fences 7 Hacksaw Ridge 8 Silence 9 Hell or High Water 10 Hidden Figures Alt Jackie Best Actor 1 Casey Affleck 2 Ryan Gosling 3 Denzel Washington 4 Andrew Garfield 5 Viggo Mortenson Best Director 1 Damien Chazelle ("La La Land") 2 Barry Jenkins ("Moonlight") 3 Kenneth Lonergan ("Manchester by the Sea") 4 Marin Scorcese (Silence) 5 Denis Villeneuve ("Arrival") BEST ACTRESS 1 Amy Adams 2 Isabel Huppert 3 Emma Stone 4 Natalie Portman 5 Meryl Streep BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR 1 Mahershala Ali 2 Jeff Bridges 3 Lucas Hedges 4 Dev Patel 5 Hugh Grant BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS 1 Fences 2 Manchester 3 Moonlight 4 Lion 5 Hidden Figures BEST ANIMATED FILM 1 Zootopia 2 Kubo and the Two Strings 3 Moana 4 Finding Dory 5 Kimi No Na Wa Alt: The Red Turtle BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY 1 Moonlight 2 Arrival 3 Fences 4 Hidden Figures 5 Lion Alt:Nocturnal Animals BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY 1 Manchester 2 La La Land 3 Hell or High Water 4 Jackie 5 Lobster BEST VISUAL EFFECTS 1 Jungle Book 2 Dr Strange 3 Rogue One 4 Arrival 5 Fantastic Beasts Alt: Civil War BEST MAKEUP AND STYLING 1 Deadpool 2 Florence foster jenkins 3 Star Trek Beyond Alt Hail Ceasar BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY 1 La La Land 2 Silence 3 Moonlight 4 Arrival 5 Jackie BEST ORIGINAL SCORE 1 La La Land 2 Moonlight 3 Jackie 4 Lion 5 Rogue One BEST ORIGINAL SONG 1 La La Land (city of stars) 2 Moana 3 Trolls 4 La La Land (audition) 5 Zootopia BEST SOUND EDITING 1 La La Land 2 Hacksaw Ridge 3 Arrival 4 Rogue One 5 Jungle Book BEST COSTUME 1 La La Land 2 Jackie 3 Silence 4 Florence Foster Jenkins 5 Fantastic Beasts BEST Production Design 1 La La Land 2 Arrival 3 Fantastic Beasts 4 Jackie 5 Silence Alt: Rogue One BEST FILM EDITING 1 La La Land 2 Hacksaw Ridge 3 Moonlight 4 Manchester by the Sea 5 Arrival BEST SOUND Mixing 1 La La Land 2 Hacksaw Ridge 3 Arrival 4 Rogue One 5 Jungle Book
  6. As for Anime of the Year, it easily goes to Re:Zero for me. It was absolutely awesome with the only downside being that it was a tad too sadistic quite some times. Erased lost all of its momentum in the second half. Yuri on Ice was good but I am unable to see what made it special....I just saw it as a good but nothing-that-unique sports anime. The music throughout was good especially the opening and Ending themes, animation was pretty good and the routines did seem somewhat unique and well realized through the character narrative during them but other than that the whole layout seemed pretty generic. Maybe 8/10 overall. I seriously want to understand what others saw in it.
  7. Yup, Absolutely beautiful. And the characters are incredibly well developed and realized in that short span of time. You get attached. My favorite shinkai film (still haven't seen Kimi No wa though).
  8. Wow I was pretty sure it would make it to the the top 10 but first? Thats quite surprising. Not that I disagree much. Its a great great film, another one of Pixar's masterpieces. But I'd probably place it somewhere near 15. Except for Toy Story 3 I'd place it below all the other films in the top 11 and a few others from the rest of the list. The best animated film for me though is easily Grave of the Fireflies. Simply putting it...its a flawless film. The most perfect film I have ever seen, animated or otherwise.
  9. If only I had got to this thread in time.... This should have been in the top 100 atleast. Its got few of the most beautiful scenes in the world of animation and is probably the best of the lesser known Ghibli films.
  10. David Fincher - Se7en, Fight Club, Gone Girl Peter Jackson - LOTR 1, 2, 3 And Christopher Nolan- The Dark Knight, Memento, Inception Or Pete Docter - Inside Out, Up and Monsters Inc
  11. But, but...My calculations bring out my score to be -53k My prediction actual % diff score mechanic 19.5 15.825 23.22274882 -3 ben hur 35 24.453 43.13172208 -23 kubo 35 36.625 4.436860068 16 sausage party 60 89.604 33.03870363 -13 pete's dragon 100 66.251 50.94111787 -30 Total=-53k
  12. "If you call a film to hit the top 15 and it misses, you will lose points for missing the top 15 and you will lose DOUBLE points if the gross misses by more than the 40 million allotted to you " What?!