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This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. This truly awful news. Don't even know what to say.
  2. Part A: 1. Will Alien open to more than $35M? YES 2. Will Wimpy Kid Open to more than $10M? YES 3. Will Everything, Everything open to more than $10M? NO 4. Will the three wide releases have a combined Friday above $25M? YES 5. Will Alien and GOTG2 finish the weekend within $5M of each other? YES 6. Will Snatched drop more than 55% NO 7. Will King Arthur drop more than 62.5% YES 8. Will F8 of the Furious stay above Boss Baby? YES 9. Will the Circle remain in the top 12? NO 10. Will the Wall stay above Made in China? YES 11. Will any new opener drop more than 30% on Sunday? NO 12. Will Baahubali cross $20M by the end of Saturday? YES 13. Will Wakefield have a PTA above $16,000? NO 14. Will Beauty and the Beast drop more than 30% for the weekend? NO 15. How many Covenant characters will have turned out to have graduated from the Prometheus school of Astronauting? 2 Bonus: 9/15 5000 10/15 8000 11/15 12,000 12/15 16,000 13/15 20,000 14/15 24,000 15/15 30,000 Part B: The top 3 predictions will score points as follows: Closest: Within 1% - 15,000, Within 2,5% - 12000, Within 5% 9,000, Within 10% - 6000 Outside 10% - 3000 points 2nd Closest: Within 1% - 12,000, Within 2,5% - 10000, Within 5% 7,000, Within 10% - 4000 Outside 10% - 2000 points 3rd Closest: Within 1% - 10,000, Within 2,5% - 8000, Within 5% 5,000, Within 10% - 2000 Outside 10% - 1000 points 1. What will Covenant's make for its 3 day OW? 36.4M 2. What will Boss Baby's PTA be? $1,104 3. What will BATB's total domestic gross be by the end of the weekend? $498,235,245 Part C: There will be 6 films to place and points are expanded because traditionally people haven't scored well here: 1. ALIEN 4. WIMPY KID 6. KING ARTHUR 9. BOSS BABY 12.BAAHUBALI 2 14. GIFTED Because I realised bonuses are stupid... 1/6 4,000 2/6 10,000 3/6 18,000 4/6 25,000 5/6 36,000 6/6 - 50,000
  3. 1. Will Alien Covenant have a higher OW than Alien vs Predator ($38.29M)? YES2. Will Alien Covenant's Midnight's be higher than Alien's OW ($3.52M)? YES3. Alien Covenant's Domestic total pass Alien Resurrection's Total Domestic gross ($47.79M) within its first 10 days of release ? NO4. Will Alien Covenant's 2nd weekend gross be more than half of Blade Runner's Total Domestic Gross ($16.43M)? NO 5. Will Alien Covenant's WW total overtake that of Aliens' WW total ($131.06m) the the end of the weekend? YES6. Will Alien Covenant have a higher opening Sunday than Alien 3's Total UK Box Office ($12.76M)? YES7. Will Alien Covenant have a better 2nd weekend drop than Prometheus (59.4%)? NO8. Will Alien Covenant have a higher second Saturday gross than Alien vs Predator Requiem's total gross in Mexico ($5.19M) YES
  4. 1987 was such a great year for film. Going to get a list in for. Will need to watch & rewatch some films before making my list.
  5. Can't believe people are spending pages talking about Wimpy Kid.
  6. Yeah, I thought Trainwreck was great, but have no interest in this at all. This just looks really unfunny.
  7. 1. Will King Arthur Open to more than $20M? 1000 YES 2. Will Snatched Open to more than $20M? 2000 YES 3. Will King Arthur open to more than Snatched? 3000 YES 4. Will Lowriders open to more than $1m? 4000 NO 5. Will King Arthur and Snatched's combined 3 Day total come to more than GOTG2's combined Friday and Saturday? 5000 YES 6. Will Boss Baby drop less than 30% 1000 NO 7. Will Baahubali drop more than 65% 2000 NO 8. Will How to be a Latin lover stay in the top 6? 3000 YES 9. Will The Promise drop more than 75% 4000 YES 10. Will The Circle have a better weekend percentage drop than Fate of the Furious? 5000 NO 11. Will any new opener stay in second place for every day of the weekend? 1000 NO 12. Will Absolutely anything have a PTA above $4,000? 2000 NO 13. Will The Wall have a PTA above $6,000? 3000 YES 14. Will GOTG2 drop more than 60% for the weekend? 4000 NO 15. Will Liam Neeson get confused and try to rescue Amy Schumer and Goldie Hawn? 5000 I'M THINKING NO Bonus: 9/15 5000 10/15 8000 11/15 12,000 12/15 16,000 13/15 20,000 14/15 24,000 15/15 30,000 Part B: The top 3 predictions will score points as follows: Closest: Within 1% - 15,000, Within 2,5% - 12000, Within 5% 9,000, Within 10% - 6000 Outside 10% - 3000 points 2nd Closest: Within 1% - 12,000, Within 2,5% - 10000, Within 5% 7,000, Within 10% - 4000 Outside 10% - 2000 points 3rd Closest: Within 1% - 10,000, Within 2,5% - 8000, Within 5% 5,000, Within 10% - 2000 Outside 10% - 1000 points 1. What will Snatched make for its 3 day OW? 25.321M 2. What will Lowrider's PTA be? $2,743 3. What will be the difference in gross between Arthur and Snatched's weekend totals (no need to say which is higher)? 2.154M Part C: There will be 6 films to place and points are expanded because traditionally people haven't scored well here: 2. SNATCHED 6. HOW TO BE A LATIN LOVER 8. BOSS BABY 11. BORN IN CHINA 14. LOWRIDERS 18. GET OUT