Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. 4-day Weekend Estimates, W LW Title (click to view) Studio Weekend Gross % Change Theater Count / Change Average Total Gross Budget* Week # 1 N Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales BV $77,044,000 - 4,276 - $18,018 $77,044,000 $230 1 2 2 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 BV $25,153,000 -27.4% 3,871 -476 $6,498 $338,468,927 $200 4 3 N Baywatch Par. $23,000,000 - 3,647 - $6,307 $27,606,514 $69 1 4 1 Alien: Covenant Fox $13,150,000 -63.6% 3,772 +11 $3,486 $59,972,181 $97 2 5 3 Everything, Everything WB $7,375,000 -37.1% 2,801 - $2,633 $22,731,113 $10 2 6 6 Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Long Haul Fox $5,800,000 -18.6% 3,174 +17 $1,827 $14,981,961 $22 2 7 4 Snatched Fox $4,875,000 -37.8% 2,658 -853 $1,834 $41,154,625 $42 3 8 5 King Arthur: Legend of the Sword WB $4,145,000 -42.0% 2,503 -1,199 $1,656 $34,800,202 $175 3 9 8 The Boss Baby Fox $2,300,000 -19.2% 1,342 -729 $1,714 $169,557,190 - 9 10 9 Beauty and the Beast (2017) BV $1,931,000 -24.1% 1,076 -716 $1,795 $500,931,435 $160 11 11 7 The Fate of the Furious Uni. $1,853,985 -42.7% 1,358 -929 $1,365 $222,904,855 $250 7 12 10 How to be a Latin Lover PNT $1,300,000 -36.6% 669 -279 $1,943 $31,210,580 - 5 13 11 Lowriders BH Tilt $771,010 -34.9% 334 -31 $2,308 $5,359,145 - 3
  2. BATB $500M "CONGRATULAIONS" Domestic Total as of May. 28, 2017: $500,563,435
  3. BATB SAILING TOWARD FROZEN WW NUMBER SLOWLY!!! $1.232B Total Lifetime Grosses Domestic: $500,563,435 40.6% + Foreign: $732,000,000 59.4% = Worldwide: $1,232,563,435
  4. BATB $500M "CONGRATULAIONS" Domestic Total as of May. 28, 2017: $500,563,435
  5. POTC5 OPENED WITH $270M WW
  6. FF8 CROSSED $1B OS to BECOME THE SIXTH MOVIE TO ACHEIVE SUCH FEAT, WOW!!
  7. FRIDAY ESTIMATES!!! GOTG2 JUST 39% from last Friday, just great number!! TD YD Title (Click to View) Studio Daily Gross % +/- YD / LW Theaters / Avg Gross To-Date Day 1 - Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales BV $23,395,000 - - 4,276 $5,471 $23,395,000 1 2 1 Baywatch Par. $5,730,000 +24% - 3,647 $1,571 $10,336,514 2 3 2 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 BV $5,322,000 +121% -39% 3,871 $1,375 $318,637,927 22 4 3 Alien: Covenant Fox $3,000,000 +69% -80% 3,772 $795 $49,822,181 8 5 4 Everything, Everything WB $2,060,000 +141% -57% 2,801 $735 $17,416,113 8 6 7 Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Long Haul Fox $1,275,000 +152% -37% 3,174 $402 $10,456,961 8 7 5 Snatched Fox $1,060,000 +76% -54% 2,658 $399 $37,339,625 15 8 6 King Arthur: Legend of the Sword WB $870,000 +61% -56% 2,503 $348 $31,525,202 15 9 9 The Boss Baby Fox $415,000 +80% -30% 1,342 $309 $167,672,190 57 10 10 The Fate of the Furious Uni. $371,000 +95% -55% 1,358 $273 $221,421,870 43 11 8 Beauty and the Beast (2017) BV $350,000 +51% -47% 1,076 $325 $499,350,435 71 12 11 How to be a Latin Lover PNT $222,000 +122% -56% 669 $332 $30,132,580 29 - - Gifted FoxS $100,000 +60% -53% 380 $263 $23,343,438 50 - - Smurfs: The Lost Village Sony $69,000 +65% -46% 362 $191 $43,401,439 50 - - Born in China BV $57,000 +44% -53% 230 $248 $13,387,028 36 - - Power Rangers (2017) LGF $34,000 +121% -37% 157 $217 $85,164,488 64 - - Logan Fox $30,000 +105% -45% 159 $189 $225,995,272 85 - - Hidden Figures Fox $3,700 -50% -80% 29 $128 $169,298,530 153
  8. GOTG2 has a 5% drop from yesterday better than CW:$2.08M (-8.%), ULTRON:$2.35M WAS UP by 1%. GOTG2 still better of both at the same time! Daily Break down, some good holds and awful drops!!! Movie Distributor Gross Change Thtrs. Per Thtr. Total Gross Days 1 new Baywatch Paramount Pictures $4,606,514 3,647 $1,263 $4,606,514 1 2 (1) Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 Walt Disney $2,403,779 -5% 4,347 $553 $313,315,927 21 3 (2) Alien: Covenant 20th Century Fox $1,780,489 -18% 3,761 $473 $46,822,181 7 4 (3) Everything, Everything Warner Bros. $855,290 +13% 2,801 $305 $15,356,113 7 5 (4) Snatched 20th Century Fox $601,458 -15% 3,511 $171 $36,279,625 14 6 (5) King Arthur: Legend of the … Warner Bros. $540,336 -21% 3,702 $146 $30,655,202 14 7 (6) Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The L… 20th Century Fox $506,563 +12% 3,157 $160 $9,181,961 7 8 (8) Beauty and the Beast Walt Disney $232,462 -3% 1,792 $130 $499,000,435 70 9 (9) The Boss Baby 20th Century Fox $230,456 +6% 2,071 $111 $167,257,190 56 10 (7) The Fate of the Furious Universal $190,055 -22% 2,287 $83 $221,050,870 42 11 (10) How to Be a Latin Lover Lionsgate $100,087 -22% 948 $106 $29,910,580 28 12 (12) Lowriders BH Tilt $68,585 -11% 365 $188 $4,588,135 14 13 (11) Gifted Fox Searchlight $62,459 -20% 824 $76 $23,243,438 49 14 (13) Going in Style Warner Bros. $45,089 -17% 690 $65 $43,618,916 49 15 (15) Smurfs: The Lost Village Sony Pictures $41,852 -3% 652 $64 $43,332,439 49 - (14) Born in China Walt Disney $39,648 -13% 575 $69 $13,330,028 35 - (-) The Zookeeper’s Wife Focus Features $29,975 +10% 275 $109 $16,962,571 56 - (-) The Circle STX Entertainment $28,833 -32% 647 $45 $20,229,805 28 - (-) The Lovers A24 $27,614 -9% 105 $263 $647,459 21 - (-) Get Out Universal $25,830 -16% 262 $99 $175,062,275 91 - (-) Their Finest STX Entertainment $19,422 +10% 155 $125 $3,253,795 49 - (-) The Lego Batman Movie Warner Bros. $16,685 +25% 202 $83 $175,388,527 105 - (-) Kong: Skull Island Warner Bros. $15,563 +8% 238 $65 $167,112,109 77 - (-) Power Rangers Lionsgate $15,367 -10% 221 $70 $85,130,488 63 - (-) Logan 20th Century Fox $14,656 -2% 213 $69 $225,965,272 84 - (-) Ghost in the Shell Paramount Pictures $8,191 +19% 124 $66 $40,563,557 56 - (-) Hidden Figures 20th Century Fox $7,377 +139% 81 $91 $169,294,830 152 - (-) Unforgettable Warner Bros. $6,993 -19% 176 $40 $11,311,684 35 - (-) Sleight High Top Releasing $5,795 -24% 113 $51 $3,886,705 28 - (-) The Dinner The Orchard $5,779 +7% 92 $63 $1,300,261 21 - (-) Jeremiah Tower: The Last Ma… The Orchard $2,729 +5% 33 $83 $173,385 35 - (-) CHiPS Warner Bros. $2,239 +7% 41 $55 $18,600,152 63 - (-) Risk Neon $2,123 +7% 13 $163 $181,030 21 - (-) Phoenix Forgotten Entertainment Studi… $966 -40% 13 $74 $3,586,682 35 - (-) The Belko Experiment BH Tilt $570 +20% 18 $32 $10,166,820 70
  9. $5.5M previews for POTC5: deadline http://deadline.com/2017/05/pirates-of-the-caribbean-5-dead-men-tell-no-tales-baywatch-box-office-weekend-1202102887/ UPDATED, 8:33 AM: Paramount Pictures’ Baywatch‘s first day on the beach earned an estimated $4.5M (which includes $1.25M from Wednesday’s previews), according to two industry estimates, as the Memorial Day weekend goes full swing tonight. The R-rated feature based on the TV show which stars Dwayne ‘The Rock’ Johnson and Zac Efron, is now in 3,647 theaters. Disney’s Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales took to the sea last night with $5.5M at 7 PM in previews and now sets sail in 4,276 theaters tonight (that includes 400 Imax locales and 500+ PLF, too).
  10. GOTG2 DROPPED JUST 36% FROM LAST WEDNESDAY, GOOD FOR THE WEEKEND PROJECTION!! BATB DROPPED 15% FROM LAST WEDNESDAY, STILL DOING GREAT!!! Movie Distributor Gross Change Thtrs. Per Thtr. Total Gross Days 1 (1) Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 Walt Disney $2,534,650 -25% 4,347 $583 $310,912,148 20 2 (2) Alien: Covenant 20th Century Fox $2,173,358 -36% 3,761 $578 $45,041,692 6 3 (3) Everything, Everything Warner Bros. $755,818 -34% 2,801 $270 $14,500,823 6 4 (4) Snatched 20th Century Fox $704,350 -35% 3,511 $201 $35,678,167 13 5 (5) King Arthur: Legend of the … Warner Bros. $681,073 -32% 3,702 $184 $30,114,866 13 - (6) Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The L… 20th Century Fox $451,370 -19% 3,157 $143 $8,675,398 6 - (7) The Fate of the Furious Universal $242,860 -26% 2,287 $106 $220,860,815 41 - (8) Beauty and the Beast Walt Disney $240,506 -20% 1,792 $134 $498,767,973 69 - (9) The Boss Baby 20th Century Fox $218,304 -17% 2,071 $105 $167,026,734 55 - (12) Gifted Fox Searchlight $78,066 -31% 824 $95 $23,180,979 48 - (11) Lowriders BH Tilt $76,910 -40% 365 $211 $4,519,550 13 - (13) Going in Style Warner Bros. $54,173 -30% 690 $79 $43,573,827 48 - (15) Born in China Walt Disney $45,540 -16% 575 $79 $13,290,380 34 - (-) Smurfs: The Lost Village Sony Pictures $43,243 -12% 652 $66 $43,290,587 48 - (14) The Circle STX Entertainment $42,172 -37% 647 $65 $20,200,874 27 - (-) Get Out Universal $30,820 -5% 262 $118 $175,036,445 90 - (-) The Lovers A24 $30,345 -6% 105 $289 $619,845 20 - (-) The Zookeeper’s Wife Focus Features $27,130 -19% 275 $99 $16,932,596 55 - (-) Their Finest STX Entertainment $17,668 -6% 155 $114 $3,234,373 48 - (-) Logan 20th Century Fox $14,961 -54% 213 $70 $225,950,616 83 - (-) Kong: Skull Island Warner Bros. $14,420 -6% 238 $61 $167,096,546 76 - (-) The Lego Batman Movie Warner Bros. $13,395 +1% 202 $66 $175,371,842 104
  11. Much better comparaison also from Deadline in case you still wondering: ....Other comps to Johnson and Efron pics are hard, since they typically previewed on a Thursday night. Last year, Efron’s Neighbors 2: Sorority Rising grossed $1.67M on its preview night (vs. the original’s $2.5M) which continued on to make $8.8M on Friday and $21.8M opening. Comparing Baywatch to Johnson’s pics San Andreas and Central Intelligence doesn’t make sense as both were PG-13. The wrestler-turned-actor’s last R-rated film was Michael Bay’s Pain and Gain which drew $750K on its Thursday night followed by a $7.5M Friday and $20.2M opening....
  12. Civil War held better on Tuesday (-4.2%), but GOTG2 leads by $3.39M to $2.89M to Civil War. GOTG2 EVEN BETTER THAN ULTRON ($3.02M on Tuesday). ''GOTG2 Dropped 43% from last Tuesday'' BATB dropped just 21% from last Tuesday. Just an incredible legs these last weeks. - (9) Beauty and the Beast Walt Disney $301,728 n/c 1,792 $168 $498,527,467 68 - (1) Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 Walt Disney $3,388,947 -6% 4,347 $780 $308,377,498 19
  13. Alien:Covenant held better with $3.32M at second place, might win on Tuesady!!! DAILY BREAKDOWN, Movie Distributor Gross Change Thtrs. Per Thtr. Total Gross Days 1 (1) Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 Walt Disney $3,597,323 -67% 4,347 $828 $304,988,551 18 2 (2) Alien: Covenant 20th Century Fox $3,323,184 -62% 3,761 $884 $39,483,805 4 3 (4) King Arthur: Legend of the … Warner Bros. $928,065 -59% 3,702 $251 $28,431,555 11 4 (3) Everything, Everything Warner Bros. $876,382 -66% 2,801 $313 $12,603,772 4 5 (5) Snatched 20th Century Fox $867,387 -61% 3,511 $247 $33,882,504 11 6 (6) Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The L… 20th Century Fox $537,358 -74% 3,157 $170 $7,663,442 4 7 (8) The Boss Baby 20th Century Fox $345,583 -63% 2,071 $167 $166,546,386 53 8 (7) The Fate of the Furious Universal $343,345 -64% 2,287 $150 $220,287,685 39 9 (9) Beauty and the Beast Walt Disney $301,111 -60% 1,792 $168 $498,225,739 67 10 (10) How to Be a Latin Lover Lionsgate $156,884 -78% 948 $165 $29,466,874 25 11 (13) Smurfs: The Lost Village Sony Pictures $133,561 -35% 652 $205 $43,198,127 46 12 (11) Lowriders BH Tilt $102,050 -76% 365 $280 $4,314,035 11 13 (12) Gifted Fox Searchlight $87,538 -59% 824 $106 $22,988,361 46 14 (14) Going in Style Warner Bros. $68,920 -59% 690 $100 $43,441,818 46 15 (15) The Circle STX Entertainment $61,352 -50% 647 $95 $20,091,354 25 - (-) Born in China Walt Disney $52,861 -40% 575 $92 $13,190,673 32 - (-) Get Out Universal $33,480 -52% 262 $128 $174,973,320 88 - (-) The Zookeeper’s Wife Focus Features $32,985 -50% 275 $120 $16,872,061 53 - (-) The Lovers A24 $28,770 -59% 105 $274 $557,265 18 - (-) Their Finest STX Entertainment $19,075 -56% 155 $123 $3,197,838 46 - (-) Logan 20th Century Fox $17,117 -72% 213 $80 $225,902,798 81 - (-) Kong: Skull Island Warner Bros. $15,437 -72% 238 $65 $167,066,744 74 - (-) The Lego Batman Movie Warner Bros. $15,386 -67% 202 $76 $175,345,216 102 - (-) Power Rangers Lionsgate $13,494 -76% 221 $61 $85,080,980 60 - (-) Sleight High Top Releasing $11,440 -53% 113 $101 $3,858,730 25 - (-) Unforgettable Warner Bros. $10,221 -58% 176 $58 $11,284,711 32 - (-) Ghost in the Shell Paramount Pictures $7,764 -55% 124 $63 $40,540,778 53 - (-) Hidden Figures 20th Century Fox $3,957 -54% 81 $49 $169,278,770 149 - (-) CHiPS Warner Bros. $1,967 -85% 41 $48 $18,593,786 60 - (-) Phoenix Forgotten Entertainment Studi… $1,598 -54% 13 $123 $3,582,913 32 - (-) The Belko Experiment BH Tilt $575 -74% 18 $32 $10,165,250 67