Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. Now that's true. Buuuuuuuuuut there are better destruction porn makers out there. Anybody who makes Godzilla '98 and Independence Day: Resurgence should get their "good destruction porn maker" card out
  2. No it's not. It's poo poo. Snyder has done some decent films (hell, I actually don't hate BVS... I like it more than MOS ). But as a whole, he doesn't do it for me. Great visual worker, but not a very good storyteller imho. Sounds like a cliché when it comes to Snyder criticisms, but it applies to my opinion perfectly.
  3. Yeeeeeeeeeee. I'm kinda sad that I won't get to see Lord & Miller's Han Solo, but The Flash seems a great fit for them too. Man, the DCEU would have a brutally talented collection of directors. They've already got Patty Jenkins, James Wan, Matt Reeves, Joss Whedon and (though he's hit and miss) David Ayer. Lord & Miller would be the cherry on top of the gold cake.
  4. Welp, Han Solo is now being directed by the man behind Willow, Apollo 13, Rush, Ransom, A Beautiful Mind, Splash, Cocoon, Parenthood, Cinderella Man, The Grinch (pretty big guilty pleasure of mine, I know it's not a good movie but I profoundly enjoy it and have made it a Christmas tradition since childhood)..... tbh I haven't seen all of those but I do recognize their popularity. Yeah, he's also had his misses - In The Heart Of The Sea, The Dilemma and the Robert Langdon trilogy (which, coming from the "genius" of Dan Brown, could only be soooo great.....) come to mind - and it's especially worrying that quite a lot of them (all of those I dropped, i.e.) have come in the last few years. But what the hell, even the all time greats have had their misses (or at least not so great films). Nolan is possibly the most consistently awesome director working, but I'll be damned if The Dark Knight Rises hasn't dropped a lot in my consideration. Spielberg is one of my all time faves, but I'll be damned if Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull isn't garbage, and some others like Lost World and AI aren't really.... good films either. Fincher is responsible for some of the best films I've ever seen, but I'll be damned if Alien 3 isn't blah and Benjamin Button is solid but nothing special whatsoever. Ron Howard is still arguably one of the most versatile and talented directors around. Certainly a more trustworthy talent than Gareth Edwards and maybe even JJ Abrams (I mean, I think Star Trek '09 is fantastic and I really like The Force Awakens too, but in terms of my overall appreciation, I think Ron Howard has got more to him). Not quite as much as Lord & Miller imo, but still. I give him shit for missing w/Dilemma and ITHOTS, but the Da Vinci Code stuff is just the poor source material to blame, really. Sure, he could've taken some liberties, but even Kubrick's The Shining maintained the same base story, and the same base story for DVC is kinda bullshit from the start. So yeah. I hope for the best, like I always do.
  5. Piggybacking off of someone who did this, my take on Summer 2017 in a nutshell: Wonder Woman's performance: Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 2's performance: Everything, Everything's performance: Captain Underpants: The First Epic Movie's performance: Alien: Covenant's performance: Baywatch's performance: Cars 3's performance: King Arthur: Legend Of The Sword's performance: Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales' performance: Snatched's performance: The Mummy's performance (DOM, at least): and last but not least, Transformers: The Last Knight's performance:
  6. nnnnnnnnnnnnnnNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. NO. NO. Carnage deserves to be a villain in a Spider-Man movie where Venom already exists. It makes no sense to introduce Venom as a hero or anti-hero or whatever in the 1st place, and Carnage is not the right villain to just shoehorn in and quickly give Venom something to spit on. Fuck that, he's one of Spider-Man's coolest, most evil and most interesting villains. Ugh. Whatever.
  7. Wait, if you dislike these new SW films, why do you want Patty Jenkins, someone who could probably make a good movie out of mostly anything, to stay away from them? Wouldn't you want her to do a good SW film? Or are you just actively rooting against their existance?
  8. Fair point, but there you go: Nutcracker will already be almost gone by the time Han Solo opens (and HS doesn't even go after the same audience), so that won't make much of a difference. And neither will WIR 2, which will only benefit from the spillover of HS sellouts + double features.
  9. Okay, maybe they don't want 4 movies in that slate, but why place Han Solo in a date where it's only going to be conflictuous w/so many other giant tentpoles instead? Deadpool 2, Bumblebee (which won't be big, but it's still a thing), Incredibles 2, Jurassic World 2... and it's probably going to kill Infinity War's already at-risk legs as well. Granted, it won't suffer much cause it's got Star Wars in the title, but it still lessens its potential overall. 4 big Disney movies in two months seems excessive, but Han Solo doesn't clash w/any of those other films as they have distinct audiences from it (unlike the June bloodbath, where even Incredibles has some audience overlap). Also, Nutcracker and Mary Poppins would collide too if Nutcracker survives that long as they're basically attracting the exact same moviegoing (both being family musicals). Though I had no idea that Nutcracker had already been filmed, that's how quiet that has been, so it does make sense to push that to November instead of the clearly not prepared yet Mulan.
  10. Again, hardly would they hurt each other. They could co-exist just fine as they both target different audiences (although I imagine Han Solo is gonna have a strong family component to its attendance as well), + Christmas/Holiday legs for everyone. Just set Han Solo a few weeks before Mary Poppins comes out - around 2 or 3 weeks, the usual distance between two consecutive big Disney films - and you're good. Aquaman is the only real worrysome thing for Han Solo there, and once again, if HS is a good movie, it can stay up there no problem even w/Aquaman.
  11. Btw, there's no chance that the movie stays in May now, it has to be pushed back to December... right?
  12. Has she found problems since going away from Spiels? Some, yeah. Bad movies? Nope, not really, so that's your problem there, pal.
  13. ...technically that's four words but whatever. This sucks. Lord & Miller were my main reason to be excited about Han Solo. Shame that they're out, but still, it wouldn't be the last time that something like this happened, and I recall instances of it not killing the movie (I still like the hell out of Ant-Man, in example). And no, Kathleen Kennedy is not an incompetent producer, she's been around since the Goddamn 1980's, she's the one who's putting the new Star Wars era together, and yes, there have been some casualties here or there, but those always happen w/filmmaking. It's normal. And the vast majority of people enjoyed TFA and Rogue One, so you're on a minority there, pal.
  14. Why did this turn into the conversation about directors who are actually shittier than Michael Bay? Anyway, BAY RANKED: 01. The Rock 02. Bad Boys 03. Bad Boys II 04. 13 Hours 05. Transformers 06. Pain & Gain 07. The Island 08. Transformers 3 666. Armageddon 1000000012389182029. Transformers 4 1111111111201920192. Pearl Harbor 6666666666666666666666666666666. Transformers 2