Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. Hope Rodrigues doesn't shit the bed with Alita! I read the manga it's good stuff, has real potential for a great film.
  2. When If Avatar 2 makes more than the first, perhaps studios will cut funding to superhero movies and start funding original Science Fiction films.
  3. I think that just annoys people when they read the 2020. "has that Avatar still not come out yet.. pff!" Keep a low profile and let the fans see the hype. 2020 hits, teasers, trailers, tv interviews and all that good marketing stuff. This post is not based on any facts or stats though, just how I feel.
  4. Also from the deadline link. Pocho De Pocha • on Jun 20, 2017 5:43 pm Well said Pocho De Pocha, well said.
  5. "said Landau, who then showed a premiere preview montage of some of the designs of Pandora and its inhabitants." I need to see this montage
  6. Interview with Randall Frakes sometime in the last 2 years. He had a plan to hire good screenwriters in teams of two to develop each script, using the TV sitcom model to get a lot done simultaneously, but since it is Jim’s vision, and he is going to direct it, he has to make it his own, so he wound up rewriting all the scripts himself (why it took so long to get to filming the sequels!). Wonder how long Jim spent When he was given the green light to develop the AVATAR sequels, he called me up and asked if working on the sequels would disturb my ethics (Jim can be cuttingly funny). I told him not if we could work a non-violent resolution into one of the sequels. He said we might be able to do that for the last one. So I came on board as a story consultant. A non-violent resolution to Avatar 5? Sounds interesting. http://www.jamescamerononline.com/randallfrakes.htm
  7. Avatar made so much money that you think it's position as #1 highest grossing film of all time is unbreakable, it's reasonable to think that. What's a zeitgeist success? (never heard the phrase)
  8. Maybe they can break through the Box Office Wall created by James Cameron. They just have to hope that if they smash through it they don't find a new wall (3.5b ww 2020)
  9. Self-refuting arguement. Also that rubbish article links to a good Jim interview, so it was worth the click honestly. http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/26/media/disney-pandora-avatar-james-cameron-interview/index.html " Well it didn't hurt "Avatar," that there was no "Avatar" before "Avatar." So I kind of rest my case." Love this point from Jim, it's so obvious yet everyone ignores it. Everything close to Avatar in the box office standings (except Titanic) are franchise films and sequels.