Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. So, Power Rangers finally had a sub-50 drop... in its sixth weekend... almost certainly its last weekend in wide release. So it has short legs, but big feet.
  2. On what do you base this flat refutation? Most of the people who saw it DID like it. The problem is that not enough people saw it.
  3. One last PR weekend prediction, since it will almost certainly drop out of wide release after this week: $633k, or a 53.6% drop.
  4. If Power Rangers is still in wide release next weekend, my prediction is $640k, or a 53.6% drop.
  5. My weekly exercise in optimism is due: Power Rangers at $1.72M, or 38.9% drop.
  6. Estimates for Lionsgate's P&A budget for Power Rangers are all over the place, but one was as low as $30M. Considering it only needed to advertise in the US and UK, that's not an entirely unfeasible number. If so, then depending on how US-heavy that number is, Lionsgate's day-of-release negative cost could be as little as $32.5M. In that case, not only is it already profitable, but as of Saturday it has already made a 10% return. LG is probably going to be satisfied with the investment, whether they're able to make a sequel or not.
  7. I honestly think this will get a sequel. Whether or not there's any more beyond that will rely on the second film overperforming. If it experiences the usual sequel drop, then you can tell Jim that it's dead.
  8. It's going to be a while. Even if/when China's box office eclipses the US (currently $6.6G vs $10.7G, respectively), that won't change the fact that five of the six major movie studios are American companies. The US is such a cushy place for rich people, especially compared to China, that it's going to be a while before they start catering primarily to the Chinese market.
  9. I figured it would plunge almost 75%.
  10. After surprising me in its second weekend, Power Rangers looks like it will disappoint for two weekends in a row. I'm picturing a still-optimistic $3.58M now, which would be a 42.2% drop.
  11. I'm gonna go optimistic for Power Rangers and say $3.74M, meaning a 39.6% drop.
  12. The funny thing is that in spite of the terrible drop, it will end up making a decent profit for Lionsgate... and STILL not be able to get a sequel because LG won't be able to get as much from presales next time.
  13. Yeah, right now I'm figuring a five-week total of $85.6M. If it goes for six weeks, bump that up to $86.8M.
  14. Based on those weekend estimates, my current projection for Power Rangers' next weekend is $3.72M, which would be a 40.2% drop. I mean, come on, it can't drop 60% every weekend, can it?