Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  2. In terms of sellouts or OW?
  3. So was Aquaman and he's getting a film next year and he was the butt of many jokes due to Superfriends.
  4. WB will be fine with MOS numbers in China, I think expecting huge numbers in China isn't realistic but they do have Chinese partners to help promote the film.
  5. Man of Steel did $668m WW with much tougher competition than Wonder Woman so I think over $600m is doable.
  6. For anyone who has the seen the film? What's the new DC intro like? Is it similar to the one they had from 2005-2012 or more like Marvel Studios' intro
  7. The Other Guys was too expensive to be profitable, it did really well domestic but it made half what it did domestically OS. Comedy is usually meant to be an inexpensive genre but sequels, action comedy and the odd vanity project tend to much higher. Little Fockers' budget was over $100m and How Do You Know cost a staggering $120m!
  8. I suspect he's on percentage of gross for most of his film where he's the lead. Jumanji probably will be the low to mid $100m for its budget I imagine the cost would be lower if Depp and Bruckheimer took a pay cut
  9. Baywatch's budget is high for a comedy even if it does have Dwayne Johnson in it. Even Central Intelligence was $50m and that was PG-13 and had quite a few action scenes.
  10. Han Solo will break the lull that has affected Memorial Day since 2015. It can have big hitters like The Hangover Part II, Fast 6, AWE etc but other times it underwhelms, its better to release a film a week later or the week before Memorial Day
  11. You doubt the 'Berg and Warner Bros!
  12. I want to do a Ready Player One club but unsure if should be over a YA franchise like The Hunger Games or another Spielberg film. Back to Wonder Woman, I still think it won't crack $400m but I think $300-350m is very doable if the Memorial day releases underperform
  13. $80m for the four days isn't good, that would mean a $65m three day opening judging from what XMA did last year
  14. I wonder if we can hit 600 pages by next week? We're nearly at 530 and I imagine if the reviews drop on Friday or Saturday, we'll see an uptick