Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. Chance are that he would be saying more than that, if he wanted to say I liked Lawrence of Arabia more than Transformers 5 he would have said I liked Lawrence of Arabia more than Transformers 5. If he say Transformers 5 is better than Lawrence of Arabia, chance are that he believe that the concept of a movie better than an other exist and that Transformer 5 is better than Lawrence of Arabia. Maybe not, many interchange freely opinion and taste and mean liked when they say better, even if they are different concept, thinking that it is implicit that it is what they mean and simply prefer the word better by how it sound.
  2. 4/5 biggest opening day in the much more frontloaded China market, it will probably do significantly less than T4. Transformer 4 is the 5th biggest movie ever there.
  3. Sony is also a big bank, sony insurance, sony capital, their very old hedge fund money and other financial service has extremelly good margin, is what make them worth a lot. For next year expected profit for their most profitable branch: https://g.foolcdn.com/editorial/images/231561/sony-top-operating-profit_large.png It is most year by far their best sector, finance. Music did really well in recent year's for them too.
  4. Universal Studio chairman Donna Langley Shari Redstone and her family are majority owners of CBS Corporation, Viacom, MTV Networks, BET, and the film studio Paramount Pictures. Snider at Fox Oprah ?
  5. I also think it didn't started has one (is Godzilla was far from safe too), but it felt to me like a list of modification to push it on the safe zone, there is still Jedi / laser stuff with Donnie Yen and Vader and seem to have removed a lot of the rebellions back story and guerrilla style war, the urban fighting did seem to go in some of our own world allegory that the movie just let go and did not explore.
  6. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_mergers_and_acquisitions According to this, it was Vodaphone buying Mannesmann ?? On 4 February 2000 Mannesmann’s supervisory board eventually agreed to a takeover price of 190 billion €, which was the largest takeover price ever paid until that date and still is the highest Exxonn buying Mobile, AOL / Time Warner were quite big also.
  7. Apple or microsoft could buy Disney "cash" I think. Google is close to. Just five U.S.-based tech firms -- Apple, Microsoft, Google, Cisco Systems and Oracle -- had cash reserves of $430.3 billion at the end of 2014,
  8. ? http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=mothersday.htm http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=motherdaughter.htm http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=rockthatbody.htm http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=besties.htm http://variety.com/2016/film/news/divergent-series-ascendant-1201818694/
  9. Fully admit really not sure what they mean (and it seam a complete empty complain to me), I'm also not sure if they consider the cinematic tool to tell the story really not something of substance. Say for them does classical music completely empty of substance ? I usually read that type of complain in comments section, without ever someone explaining themselves or giving example.
  10. That is often the norms, not much style going on and often they are overstuffed/over complicated plot, too many character, etc... We get the Gravity/MadMax from time to time.
  11. Pure speculation, but both were hired and those movie project started before Force Awaken level of success happened, that possibly changed the game, what they expect commercially and possibly what they want to see in those movie.
  12. It will be at the back burner until Trump come up with something to make Apple cash coming back more possible, then rumors of them buying everything (Disney, netflix, etc...) will come up again if it happen.
  13. He is the man in charge, the main creative force, a producer, that goes in the writing room talk to them in pre-production, would not surprise me if he choose the writers and some of the movie high concept. He probably even has the power to push production if he don't like were the script is (the way they talked about him deciding to still go on with T2 during the writer strike). He is not a director for hire with little control.
  14. But will it go in my pocket ? Not sure why it would matter (we are talking about a Disney movie here, not like they need a hit right now)
  15. Is an interesting case (I really loved is Pain&Gain and is ability to make that movie in the can at that price point is certainly impressive), he seem to be a special genius. Would be curious to see the result of him being the director of photography of someone else movie.