Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. Good point, I knew I was forgetting something. 'Highest Superhero Debut in Fifteen Years' is still wonderful, given the success of the genre.
  2. To me "greatly outperform" means at least 50% increase, or almost $500M for JL. I don't see that happening but who knows. It is too early to make any confident prediction.
  3. Harley Quinn was unknown for the general audience. But anyway the movie was actually called Suicide Squad, a name just as obscure, and also starred Deadshot and Amanda Waller. Almost nobody knows who these people are except nerds and kids who watched the cartoons. In general, it doesn't seem to matter how famous characters are in these superhero movies. Remember that GOTG1 > Iron Man 1 > Hulk. Likewise, Justice League is unlikely to greatly outperform the box office success of Suicide Squad, domestically at least.
  4. A Thousand Millions Planetwide! Maybe it will flop, maybe not. But it is very unlikely to be "generic".
  5. Paramount is not going to give up on TF after one flop so the Bumblebee spinoff is actually a perfect way to see if they can still make some money with "smaller" (and hopefully better reviewed) movies.
  6. Soon Wonder Woman will pass Iron Man, Suicide Squad, Guardians of the Galaxy and Deadpool to become the highest superhero debut ever.
  7. It is the perfect time to launch the TFverse and the Bumblebee spinoff.
  8. Exactly. It won't be superhero fatigue, but superhero saturation: some will fail because studios are going all in with the genre now, whereas the box office success rate is nearly 100% at the moment (give or take a Fantastic Four).
  9. That is nonsense, because there is no way a Wonder Woman movie would have opened to $100M+ if she wasn't included in BvS.