Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. Cars 3 ends first week with $146.7M lc ($8M USD). Is poised to keep as No. 1 this weekend. $300M is a quite hard milestone to reach. Wonder Woman has finally passed GOTG 2 with $365.3M lc to date. This weekend comes 'Everything, Everything', the teen-romantic film of the year, which is following the path of 'The Fault in Our Stars' (2014), 'Paper Towns' (2015) and 'Me Before You' (2016). It won't take off audience to Cars 3 and won't get more of 1,200 screens. OW will be on par with 'Paper Towns' numbers ($24.09M lc).
  2. OFFICIAL RELEASE DATES FOR COMING-UP SUMMER MOVIES. ONLY WIDE RELEASES June 23th. -- Everything, Everything June 29th. -- Despicable Me 3 July 6th. -- Spiderman: Homecoming July 21th -- Transformers: The Last Knight July 27th -- War for the Planet of the Apes and Dunkirk August 4th - Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets Info by Cinepolis and Cinemex. Confirmed by IMAX, Warner Pictures Mexico, Universal Studios Mexico, Sony Pictures Latam, 20th Century Fox Latam and Diamond Films. Unconfirmed dates: August 4th -- The Emoji Movie August 11th -- Baby Driver August 18th -- Annabelle: Creation
  3. JUNE 16TH-18TH WEEKEND. LOW PERFORMANCE FOR PIXAR'S 'CARS 3' AND A MEH OPENING FOR BAYWATCH. Ok, it's so unfair to compare OW of Cars 3 ($103.3M) with monsters like 'Minions' ($247.3M OW), 'Toy Story 3' ($195M OW), 'Ice Age 5' ($155M OW) or 'Finding Dory' ($177.2M OW), but at least you should expect an 'Inside Out' OW level ($131M OW) for the first three days of the final installment in the Lightning McQueen series, just because is a very known and popular character, the first one made $12M USD back in 2006 and in 2011 the second one doubled up those numbers into $25M USD ($276M lc). We better hope doesn't have the legs of Dory or Scrat because it won't even get the 300 M milestone, and it comes the problem of Gru in 2 weeks and the Parker/Stark duo in 3. Personally, i don't see going further of $300 M, it's becoming typicall that when an animation comes out while other one is still playing, the older one of the chart has a 60-70% drop. The good part is has two weeks to get all the money it cans. With awful WoM and terrible reviews here it comes... Baywatch! Seems that the Dwayne Johnson's mojo didn't work out so well this time, and the movie just made $44.9M ($2.5M USD) this weekend, we could say it's a "decent" opening because american comedies usually don't do well in theatres (surpsingly, they do so much better with BD, DVD and streaming sales) but the terrible reputation that is having among audiences will have a negative repercussion on its performance. Dropping 57% from last weekend, the entirely punished 'Mummy' take the third spot with $38.3M weekend for a total of $168.48M ($9.3M USD). Yes, it's so much succesful that Edge of the Tomorrow and Oblivion but it's still a pretty regular result for this one. With another wonderful drop of 53% is the Princess of Themyscira. Wonder Woman added $32.08M for a $349.45M cume. It's just 10-15 millions away of GOTG 2 and that way will be the highest CBM without Batman/Iron Man/Spiderman in it. In dollars has amassed $18.9M USD so far, on par with GOTG 2 but still far away of MOS ($21M), TWS and TDK($25M) and obviously so much far of BVS, SS and any Avengers film. Still, people in WB should be happy and proud. Finally, with a hard drop of 61.1% comes another Disney property; POTC 5. It made $8.7M this weekend for a $291.6M cumulative. Definitely can reach $300M but it will be dead by June 29th. WKND LC/TOTAL LC TOTAL USD Cars 3 $103.3M/$103.3M $5.7M Baywatch $44.9M/$44.9M $2.5M The Mummy $38.3M/$168.4M $9.3M Wonder Woman $32M/$349.4M $18.9M Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell no Tales $8.7M/$291.6M $15.5M Resident Evil: Vendetta $3.16M/$3.16M $176K Colossal $2.4M/$2.4M $135K A Family Man $2.3M/$12.97M $720K A Man Called Ove* $1.39M/$1.39M $77K The Healer $1.31M/$54.4M $3M *Limited release
  4. Other results according to Deadline: - Wonder Woman: $18.9 M TOTAL. In lc it's close to $145-$147 M Should pass GOTG 2 by next weekend. - The Mummy: $9.3M TOTAL. Around $155 M lc - Baywatch: $2.4 M OW. $42.9 M lc. Biggest OW for a B-15 comedy (Although, Deadpool is also considered a comedy and it was B-15, so...)
  5. PS for DM3 have begun today. Official release date is June 29th. Another 4-Day OW.
  6. Still can make it. Audiences increases each day of the weekend. Last year's Ice Age 5 made $155 M lc with a $33.7 M lc OD, Sing kicked with $72.3 OW from $11 OD. This one definitely won't pass $125 M but it still can pass $100 M lc. In other news: Spiderman: Homecoming already started PS. It opens July 6th, a 4-Day opening. We'll see if the friendly neighbour keeps as No. 1 superhero in Mexico.
  7. FRIDAY REPORT. AT 2600 LOCATIONS, CARS 3 EASILY TOPS THE DAY. BAYWATCH GETS SECOND SPOT. Cars 3 $26 M/$26 M Baywatch $11.6 M/$11.6 M The Mummy $9 M/$139 M Wonder Woman $7 M/$325 M Pirates of the Caribbean 5 $2 M/$284 M Colossal $684 K/$684 K A Family Man $644 K/$11 M En Man Som Heter Ove (A Man Called Ove) $340 K/$340 K How to be a Latin Lover $172 K/$455 M
  8. Earlier screenings of Cars 3 are strong, specially in kids-friendly formats like 4DX and Sala Junior. IMAX and VIP theatres are very crowded too. Inside-Out made a $131 M OW and Monsters University a $159 M OW. Cars 3 is eyeing for a $140-145 M lc opening. The Mummy ended its first seven days on screen with $129.9 M lc and a bad WoM. People miss Brendan Fraser! Wonder Woman is poised to surpass GOTG Vol 2, but not this weekend, maybe by next friday get that. After 14 days it has amassed $317.9 M.
  9. This one has a decent shot to pass $350 M with a +$120 M lc OW because: 1. Zero competition until Gru arrives on June 30th 2. Mon-Thu (specially tuesday and wednesday) have proven to be good days for BO But going further is almost impossible just because: 1. Hype is not that strong with this one, but may will help it that any animated film has debuted wide since Boss Baby in March, that could cheer parents to take their kids to theatre, altough... 2. ... Gru and his Minions. They are waaay more popular than McQueen and parents could prefer save its money to take their kids to DM3 instead of some movie that they are less or not even interested to see. Plus, Universal is looking to get +4,000 screens for its release. 3. Most of kids are out of school until July 28th and there are no holidays, and that's something that will affect not just Cars 3 but DM3 and Homecoming, making them even more front-loaded. I thought on making a comparison bassed on Inside Out-Minions competition back in 2015, but there are a few significative differences that make it useless at least until monday results.
  10. Despicable Me 3 will hunt Fate of the Furious to get the No. 1 of the year and everyone will be affected for that. Merchadising in the main theatres chains is totally insane, i never saw many souvenirs for a film.
  11. JUNE 9TH-11TH WEEKEND. MUMMY CAN'T SCARE TO THE WARRIOR OF THEMYSCIRA. This weekend 'The Mummy' started the Universal's 'Dark Universe' in many countries, included Mexico. The film starring Tom Cruise made $89.4 M lc ($4.9 M USD) on its first three days at the country. That's a...decent(?) opening. The truth is that with a lazy summer ruled by Star Lord, Eugenio Derbez and Wonder Woman by this point, 'The Mummy' feels like a decent result for Universal after the disasters that King Arthur, Alien: Covenant, Get Out were, besides the low-performance of POTC 5. However, legs won't be long for this one, and i'm not just saying for competition (WW, Cars 3, DM3) but for the mixed WoM of the film. $220 M is a possibility, but will have to struggle for that. In second spot, with a good drop (55%), is Wonder Woman. The DC powerful girl amassed $68.8 M lc ($3.7 M USD) for a total of $286.9 M lc ($15 M USD). With good results between weekends will top $300 M for the begining of the next weekend. WoM keeps being quite good for the film. 'Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales'. Another weekend, another drop for the fantasy-action film in the Top 3. This weekend add $22.6 M lc ($1.2 M USD) for a cumulative of $271.92 M lc ($15 M). WKND LC/TOTAL LC TOTAL USD The Mummy $89.4 M/$89.4 M $4.9 M Wonder Woman $68.8 M/$286.9 M $15.7 M Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell no Tales $22.6 M/$271.9 M $14 M A Family Man $6.3 M/$6.3 M $346 K The Healer $3.8 M/$50.7 M $2 M How to be a Latin Lover $3.5 M/$453 M $24 M A Stork's Journey $2.9 M/$22 M $1.2 M Get Out $1.8 M/$35.4 M $1.9 M Highway to Hellas $660 K/$660 K $36 K Sadako vs Kayako $650 K/$4.7 M $260 K