Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. And here is week 9 question... go get it! Week 9: June 30th Weekend: - Will the House make more than 25% of the weekend gross of Despicable Me? unlocking in three, two, one......
  2. I'm calling this.... Week 8: June 23rd Weekend: - Will Cars 3 drop less than 47.5%? it's sitting at 53% after estimates, doubt it can make enough of a difference to reach 47.5.... so.... here is the updated scores.... 3 passes and 3 cashouts this week. We are now down to 15 here with the bottom 4 without any further passes. # Player Total Score PASSES Incorrect Answer Total Questions Correct Q8 Actuals NO 1 Chewy 120000 0 FALSE 8 NO 2 kayumanggi 120000 0 FALSE 8 NO 3 Baumer 105000 1 FALSE 7 NO 4 bcf26 105000 1 FALSE 7 NO 5 darkelf 105000 1 FALSE 7 NO 6 Exxdee 105000 1 FALSE 7 NO 7 jj99 105000 1 FALSE 7 NO 8 Kalo 105000 1 FALSE 7 NO 9 Matrix4You 105000 1 FALSE 7 NO 10 Simionski 105000 1 FALSE 7 NO 11 WrathofHan 105000 1 FALSE 7 NO 12 Chasmmi 90000 2 FALSE 6 PASS 13 That One Guy 90000 2 FALSE 6 PASS 14 Wrath 90000 2 FALSE 6 PASS 15 damnitgeorge08 90000 2 FALSE 6 NO 16 24Lost 75000 2 FALSE 5 CASHOUT 17 DamienRoc 75000 2 FALSE 5 CASHOUT 18 Grey Ghost 75000 2 FALSE 5 CASHOUT 19 grim22 36000 3 FALSE 3 20 #ED 12000 3 FALSE 1 21 MrPink 12000 3 FALSE 1 22 aabattery 7500 1 TRUE 1 23 Alfred 7500 1 TRUE 1 24 Blankments 7500 0 TRUE 1 25 Empire 7500 0 TRUE 1 26 franfar 7500 0 TRUE 1 27 glassfairy 7500 0 TRUE 1 28 Jake Gittes 7500 0 TRUE 1 29 JJ-8 7500 0 TRUE 1 30 narniadis 7500 0 TRUE 1 31 Spaghetti 7500 0 TRUE 1 32 Telemachos 7500 0 TRUE 1 33 The Panda 7500 0 TRUE 1 34 Water Bottle 7500 0 TRUE 1 35 BastienGiot 0 3 FALSE 0 36 cmasterclay 0 3 FALSE 0 37 Fancyarcher 0 1 TRUE 0 38 Goffe 0 3 FALSE 0 39 Mike Hunt 0 3 FALSE 0 40 MovieMan89 0 3 FALSE 0 41 Tree 0 3 FALSE 0
  3. Ok guys. Let's try and keep it on topic from. The silliness over the past pages has to stop(and before u ask it's mostly hidden now) think before u post.....
  4. Part A: 1. Will Transformers' 5 day opening (Wed-Sun) be higher than Pirates 3 day OW ($62.9M) gross? 1000 YES 2. Will Transformers Open to more than $50M for its 3 Day? 2000 NO 3. Will Transformers' Wed+Thursday total be more than 27.5% of the total gross by end of Sunday? 3000 NO 4. Will Transformers gross more on Friday or Saturday? 4000 SATURDAY 5. Will Transformers have a daily PTA above $4000 for every day of the weekend? 5000 NO 6. Will Cars drop less than 50% 1000 NO 7. Will Guardians drop less than 45% 2000 YES 8. Will Cars stay in the top 2? 3000 NO 9. Will The Mummy drop more than 62% 4000 YES 10. Will all Eyes on me drop more than 64%? 5000 NO 11. Will 47 Metres Down have a PTA above $2,250? 1000 YES 12. Will Rough Night drop more than 55%? 2000 YES 13. Will anything in its 2nd weekend drop less than 42%? 3000 NO 14. Will All Eyes on me cross $50M by the end of the weekend? 4000 NO 15. Will Baywatch stay above Book of Henry? 5000 NO 16. Will The Mummy stay above 47 Metres Down 1000 NO 17. Will Captain Underpants have a higher weekend percentage drop than Megan Leavey? 2000 NO 18. Will The Big Sick have a PTA above $8,000? 3000 YES 19. Will The Beguiled have a PTA above $11,000? 4000 NO 20. How many sets of dangling robot testicles will it take for both Ethan and Baumer to hate this film? 5000 DO YOU THINK BAUMER WILL EVER LEARN ? Bonus: 12/20 2000 13/20 4000 14/20 7000 15/20 12000 16/20 16,000 17/20 21,000 18/20 26,000 19/20 32,000 20/20 40,000 Part B: The top 3 predictions will score points as follows: Closest: Within 1% - 15,000, Within 2,5% - 12000, Within 5% 9,000, Within 10% - 6000 Outside 10% - 3000 points 2nd Closest: Within 1% - 12,000, Within 2,5% - 10000, Within 5% 7,000, Within 10% - 4000 Outside 10% - 2000 points 3rd Closest: Within 1% - 10,000, Within 2,5% - 8000, Within 5% 5,000, Within 10% - 2000 Outside 10% - 1000 points 1. What will Transformers make for its 5 day OW? 76.701m 2. What percentage of Transformers' 5 day gross will be made on Wed and Thurs? 24.333% 3. What will be the difference in percentage between Wonder Woman's percentage drop and The Mummy's (so if WW drops 75% and Mummy 50% the answer is 25%, order doesn't matter)? 22.018% Part C: There will be 6 films to place and points are expanded because traditionally people haven't scored well here: 2. Wonder Woman 5. The Mummy 7. Pirates of the Carribean : Dead men tell no tales 10. the book of henry 12. tubelight 15. Beatrix at dinner Because I realised bonuses are stupid... 1/6 4,000 2/6 10,000 3/6 18,000 4/6 25,000 5/6 36,000 6/6 - 50,000 Deadline is Thursday May 25th at 11:59pm
  5. wow that is not good for Transformers. for comparison TF4 did 8.8m OW onto 27m. TF3 12.4m/37.5m. TF2 13.7m / 40.3m. TF 8.1m / 27.9m. I don't have OD figures but highly doubt any those had OD's below 1m. it will luck to be half the OW of lowest previous opening. As for Cars 3 - I am not surprised - and that is epically bad ... OD less than DM3's second Thursday! I mean I know there is holidays coming but at this point... 10m would be optimistic for Cars 3 with an opening this low. of note cars 2 managed 4.9m OW onto a 20m total. Does this set things up for an explosive opening for Spider-man Homecoming here ?
  6. quick update (for last 2 weeks).... i'm leading all for now Weekend Box Office June 9th - 11th, 2017 TW LW Investor Title Weekend Gross % Change Theatre Count / Change Average Invested Movie Count / Active % Bank Account (2017) 1 1 Jajang $61,906,399 -25.5% 10,996 +784 $5,630 25 230% $247,885,545 2 2 chasmmi $48,337,168 -41.6% 8,721 -1,792 $5,543 21 340% $393,833,585 3 3 Simionski $44,489,809 -34.6% 10,323 +642 $4,310 19 350% $637,075,694 4 4 MCKillswitch123 $38,128,427 -42.5% 5,990 +72 $6,366 21 125% $257,876,103 5 5 Exxdee $35,363,686 -42.8% 5,620 -1,019 $6,293 12 150% $616,156,335 6 6 Wrath $26,359,594 -43.0% 4,842 -1,180 $5,445 18 135% $318,544,732 7 11 Alfred $6,337,675 +23249.2% 807 +761 $7,853 3 20% $17,742,215 8 7 Grey Ghost $3,999,848 -34.8% 2,180 -963 $1,835 16 50% $369,565,581 9 8 BourneFan #1 $525,307 -58.0% 762 -730 $690 5 0% $88,015,008 10 10 DAJK $4,309 -87.9% 19 - $234 5 0% $137,709,474 11 9 CJohn $0 -100.0% 0 -83 $0 3 0% $141,709,491 Totals (11 Players): $265,452,222 -36.2% 50,260 -3,508 $5,282 20 1420% Weekend Box Office June 16th - 18th, 2017 TW LW Investor Title Weekend Gross % Change Theatre Count / Change Average Invested Movie Count / Active % Bank Account (2017) 1 1 Jajang $70,369,268 +13.7% 11,023 +27 $6,384 25 290% $283,387,649 2 4 MCKillswitch123 $56,376,137 +47.9% 8,900 +2,910 $6,335 21 265% $292,338,792 3 2 chasmmi $40,050,301 -17.1% 9,072 +351 $4,415 21 340% $402,748,081 4 3 Simionski $31,927,416 -28.2% 8,772 -1,551 $3,640 19 350% $641,532,942 5 8 Grey Ghost $29,458,942 +636.5% 3,799 +1,619 $7,755 17 150% $258,098,380 6 7 Alfred $29,337,546 +362.9% 3,278 +2,471 $8,950 3 120% $46,275,014 7 5 Exxdee $24,357,211 -31.1% 3,991 -1,629 $6,104 12 150% $616,156,335 8 6 Wrath $17,965,788 -31.8% 3,226 -1,616 $5,571 18 135% $318,544,732 9 9 BourneFan #1 $168,982 -67.8% 294 -468 $575 5 0% $88,015,008 10 10 DAJK $2,176 -49.5% 5 -14 $495 5 0% $137,709,474 Totals (10 Players): $300,013,767 +13.0% 52,360 +2,100 $5,730 23 1800%
  7. 2 players over 300% and can't invest in any wide releases for now. @Simionski ; @chasmmi Bank Accounts - 2017 Bank Account = 100m + $ Earnt (Revenue) - $ Invested If Wide Active > 300% (3 Movies) then you are restricted. TW Investors Title Movie Count Wide Active % Total $ Invested Total Revenue ($ Earnt) Bank Account Total Gross 1 Simionski 19 350% $920,150,000 $1,481,682,942 $641,532,942 2 Exxdee 13 150% $651,400,000 $1,166,556,335 $595,156,335 3 chasmmi 21 340% $771,272,188 $1,094,020,269 $402,748,081 4 MCKillswitch123 21 265% $734,440,000 $946,778,792 $292,338,792 5 Wrath 19 135% $482,710,000 $691,254,732 $288,544,732 6 Jajang 27 290% $1,129,550,000 $1,207,937,649 $158,387,649 7 CJohn 3 0% $56,150,000 $117,859,491 $141,709,491 8 DAJK 5 0% $54,800,000 $112,509,474 $137,709,474 9 BourneFan #1 5 0% $172,750,000 $180,765,008 $88,015,008 10 Grey Ghost 19 150% $1,137,125,000 $1,124,223,380 $67,098,380 11 Alfred 3 120% $74,000,000 $40,275,014 $46,275,014
  8. Release Schedule Red Highlight is fully invested and no longer available unless a player decides to sell part of or all their portion. Available for Investment Budget Source / Comments July 2017 Friday 7 New in Theatres Budget %Avail Theatres Spider-Man: Homecoming $200m 0% Wide Estimated based upon other Marvel properties Friday 14 New in Theatres Budget %Avail Theatres War for the Planet of the Apes $175m 220% Wide Estimated based upon Dawn Wish upon $12m 200% Wide hollywood reporter Friday 21 New in Theatres Budget %Avail Theatres Dunkirk $170m 200% Wide Girls Trip $28m 0% Wide Louisiania Economic Development Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets $213.2m 200% Wide 190m Euros - Variety Films not Available until 1 month from Release Budget Source / Comments July 2017 Friday 28 New in Theatres Budget %Avail Theatres Atomic Blonde $30m 200% Wide Deadline The Emoji Movie $75m 200% Wide An Inconvenient Sequel $5m 200% Wide
  9. Movie Investments - 2017 Investor Classification / Time % invested $ Spent $ Earnt % Gain Captain Underpants: The First Epic Movie Movie Budget: $38,000,000 Release Date: 2-Jun-2017 RELEASED 150% 1 Jajang 02-May-17 100% $38,000,000 $58,716,647 54.5% MCKillswitch123 02-May-17 50% $19,000,000 $29,358,324 54.5% Wonder Woman Movie Budget: $148,000,000 Release Date: 2-Jun-2017 RELEASED 300% 1 Jajang 02-May-17 50% $82,000,000 $139,951,997 70.7% Wrath 02-May-17 35% $60,800,000 $97,966,398 61.1% chasmmi 25-Apr-17 65% $105,600,000 $181,937,596 72.3% Simionski 02-May-17 50% $74,000,000 $139,951,997 89.1% Exxdee 02-May-17 50% $74,000,000 $139,951,997 89.1% MCKillswitch123 02-May-17 50% $74,000,000 $139,951,997 89.1% It comes at Night Movie Budget: $20,000,000 Release Date: 9-Jun-2017 RELEASED 150% 1 chasmmi 16-May-17 25% $5,000,000 $2,882,617 -42.3% Simionski 17-May-17 100% $20,000,000 $11,530,467 -42.3% MCKillswitch123 17-May-17 25% $5,000,000 $2,882,617 -42.3% The Mummy (2017) Movie Budget: $125,000,000 Release Date: 9-Jun-2017 RELEASED 70% 1 Jajang 13-May-17 50% $62,500,000 $29,355,538 -53.0% Alfred 16-May-17 20% $25,000,000 $11,742,215 -53.0% 47 Meters Down Movie Budget: $20,000,000 Release Date: 16-Jun-2017 RELEASED 50% 1 MCKillswitch123 17-May-17 50% $10,000,000 $6,337,372 -36.6% All eyez on me Movie Budget: $40,000,000 Release Date: 16-Jun-2017 RELEASED 200% 1 Alfred 24-May-17 100% $40,000,000 $28,532,799 -28.7% Grey Ghost 30-May-17 100% $40,000,000 $28,532,799 -28.7% Cars 3 Movie Budget: $131,250,000 Release Date: 16-Jun-2017 RELEASED 100% 1 Jajang 07-Jun-17 60% $78,750,000 $35,502,104 -54.9% MCKillswitch123 07-Jun-17 40% $52,500,000 $23,668,070 -54.9% Rough Night Movie Budget: $20,000,000 Release Date: 16-Jun-2017 RELEASED 200% 1 chasmmi 17-May-17 100% $20,000,000 $8,914,496 -55.4% Simionski 17-May-17 50% $10,000,000 $4,457,248 -55.4% MCKillswitch123 17-May-17 50% $10,000,000 $4,457,248 -55.4% Transformers: The Last Knight Movie Budget: $130,000,000 % Available: 20% Release Date: 21-Jun-2017 INVESTMENT 80% 1 Jajang 20-Jun-17 80% $104,000,000 $0 -100.0% Tubelight Movie Budget: $16,000,000 % Available: 200% Release Date: 23-Jun-2017 INVESTMENT 0% 1 Baby Driver Movie Budget: $37,500,000 % Available: 100% Release Date: 28-Jun-2017 INVESTMENT 0% 1 Amityville: The Awakening Movie Budget: $20,000,000 % Available: 150% Release Date: 30-Jun-2017 INVESTMENT 50% 1 Jajang 07-Jun-17 50% $10,000,000 $0 -100.0% Despicable Me 3 Movie Budget: $100,000,000 % Available: 0% Release Date: 30-Jun-2017 INVESTMENT 300% 1 Grey Ghost 30-May-17 50% $50,000,000 $0 -100.0% chasmmi 30-May-17 50% $50,000,000 $0 -100.0% BourneFan #1 30-May-17 50% $50,000,000 $0 -100.0% Simionski 30-May-17 50% $50,000,000 $0 -100.0% Exxdee 30-May-17 50% $50,000,000 $0 -100.0% MCKillswitch123 30-May-17 50% $50,000,000 $0 -100.0% The House Movie Budget: $40,000,000 % Available: 0% Release Date: 30-Jun-2017 INVESTMENT 300% 1 Grey Ghost 30-May-17 60% $24,000,000 $0 -100.0% chasmmi 30-May-17 60% $24,000,000 $0 -100.0% BourneFan #1 30-May-17 60% $24,000,000 $0 -100.0% Simionski 30-May-17 60% $24,000,000 $0 -100.0% Exxdee 30-May-17 60% $24,000,000 $0 -100.0%
  10. MOVIE TITLE THEATRES RELEASE DATE Final Game Budget CLASSIFICATION TOTAL % INVESTED WEEKEND GROSS TOTAL GROSS RELEASED Captain Underpants: The First Epic Movie 2968 2 June 2017 $38,000,000 RELEASED 150% $7,181,541 $58,716,647 Wonder Woman 4018 2 June 2017 $148,000,000 RELEASED 300% $41,268,850 $279,903,994 It comes at Night 2450 9 June 2017 $20,000,000 RELEASED 150% $2,601,468 $11,530,467 The Mummy (2017) 4034 9 June 2017 $125,000,000 RELEASED 70% $14,510,960 $58,711,075 47 Meters Down 2270 16 June 2017 $20,000,000 RELEASED 50% $11,205,561 $12,674,744 All eyez on me 2471 16 June 2017 $40,000,000 RELEASED 200% $26,435,354 $28,532,799 Cars 3 4256 16 June 2017 $131,250,000 RELEASED 100% $53,688,680 $59,170,174 Rough Night 3162 16 June 2017 $20,000,000 RELEASED 200% $8,004,283 $8,914,496 Release Schedule Red Highlight is fully invested and no longer available unless a player decides to sell part of or all their portion. Available for Investment Budget Source / Comments June 2017 Wednesday 21 New in Theatres Budget %Avail Theatres Transformers: the Last Knight $130m 20% 3900 Wikipedia ?? Friday 23 New in Theatres Budget %Avail Theatres Tubelight $16m 200% tbc 100 crors (1B INR which approx exchange to 16m USD) Wednesday 28 New in Theatres Budget %Avail Theatres Baby Driver $37.5m 100% Wide Friday 30 New in Theatres Budget %Avail Theatres Amityville: The Awakening $20m 150% Wide Despicable Me 3 $100m 0% Wide The House $40m 0% Wide Deadline
  11. Movie Investments - 2017 Investor Classification / Time % invested $ Spent $ Earnt % Gain Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 Movie Budget: $200,000,000 Release Date: 5-May-2017 RELEASED 300% 1 Jajang 05-Apr-17 50% $100,000,000 $187,776,129 87.8% Wrath 05-Apr-17 50% $100,000,000 $187,776,129 87.8% Grey Ghost 05-Apr-17 50% $100,000,000 $187,776,129 87.8% chasmmi 05-Apr-17 50% $100,000,000 $187,776,129 87.8% Simionski 05-Apr-17 50% $100,000,000 $187,776,129 87.8% Exxdee 05-Apr-17 50% $100,000,000 $187,776,129 87.8% King Arthur: Legend of the Sword Movie Budget: $79,500,000 Release Date: 12-May-2017 RELEASED 70% 1 Jajang 07-May-17 40% $31,800,000 $15,419,183 -51.5% MCKillswitch123 07-May-17 30% $23,850,000 $11,564,387 -51.5% Snatched Movie Budget: $42,000,000 Release Date: 12-May-2017 RELEASED 200% 1 Wrath 12-Apr-17 25% $10,500,000 $11,355,685 8.1% chasmmi 12-Apr-17 100% $42,000,000 $45,422,740 8.1% BourneFan #1 12-Apr-17 75% $31,500,000 $34,067,055 8.1% Alien: Covenant Movie Budget: $97,000,000 Release Date: 19-May-2017 RELEASED 30% 1 MCKillswitch123 19-Apr-17 30% $29,100,000 $21,848,632 -24.9% Diary of a Wimpy Kid: the Long Haul Movie Budget: $16,500,000 Release Date: 19-May-2017 RELEASED 50% 1 Jajang 07-May-17 50% $8,250,000 $10,059,952 21.9% Everything, Everything Movie Budget: $5,000,000 Release Date: 19-May-2017 RELEASED 100% 1 Jajang 13-May-17 30% $1,500,000 $9,978,418 565.2% Simionski 13-May-17 50% $2,500,000 $16,630,696 565.2% MCKillswitch123 17-May-17 20% $1,000,000 $6,652,278 565.2% Baywatch Movie Budget: $69,000,000 Release Date: 25-May-2017 RELEASED 300% 1 Wrath 25-Apr-17 50% $34,500,000 $27,698,784 -19.7% chasmmi 25-Apr-17 100% $69,000,000 $55,397,567 -19.7% Simionski 25-Apr-17 100% $69,000,000 $55,397,567 -19.7% Exxdee 26-Apr-17 50% $34,500,000 $27,698,784 -19.7%
  12. MOVIE TITLE THEATRES RELEASE DATE Final Game Budget CLASSIFICATION TOTAL % INVESTED WEEKEND GROSS TOTAL GROSS RELEASED Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 1813 5 May 2017 $200,000,000 RELEASED 300% $5,071,732 $375,552,257 King Arthur: Legend of the Sword 158 12 May 2017 $79,500,000 RELEASED 70% $103,171 $38,547,957 Snatched 211 12 May 2017 $42,000,000 RELEASED 200% $126,644 $45,422,740 Alien: Covenant 400 19 May 2017 $97,000,000 RELEASED 30% $568,149 $72,828,774 Diary of a Wimpy Kid: the Long Haul 255 19 May 2017 $16,500,000 RELEASED 50% $330,813 $20,119,904 Everything, Everything 403 19 May 2017 $5,000,000 RELEASED 100% $388,123 $33,261,392 Baywatch 1307 25 May 2017 $69,000,000 RELEASED 300% $1,610,987 $55,397,567
  13. Budget Updates (no investments have been made in these films) Transformers 5 ~ 50% of original (less than 1 week to release) = 260m x 50% = 130m (max 100% investment) Baby Driver ~ 75% of original (less than 2 weeks) = 50m x 75% = 37.5m (max 100%) Also official budgets ~ The mummy = 125m All eyez on me = 40m Rough Night = 20m Cars 3 = 175m (as per original but reduced to 75%) = 131.25m