Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. I would actually say the evidence shows that there is no way WW is doing anywhere near $31 million in previews.
  2. Not saying it will happen again but GOTG has been underpredicted every weekend based on early Friday numbers.
  3. Agree on better legs than this. Not because it's a better movie (I love both), but it's more accessible to the general audience and the main Avengers line of movies just isn't going to have good legs anymore. We are talking about like the 8th of 9th movie in a series. You are going to have huge opening weekends with frontloading for those because you aren't going to suddenly find a new audience at this point. Luckily for Disney and Marvel th audience for those films is huge though.
  4. Overseas or world wide? This isn't getting close to 1.4 billion.
  5. Yep. I love both TFA and Rogue One and I can't wait for Episode VIII and IX and the Han Solo movie should be fun just based on the cast and crew involved but after Episode IX they really are going to need to branch out some at some point or else things might get stale.
  6. That sounds like a horrendous idea even if this is going to clear $500 mil domestically and over a billion worldwide. The Beauty and the Beast story is very self contained. Where exactly is there to branch out?
  7. Fandango said this was outselling CW at the same point yesterday.
  8. Go take a look at the drops from Sunday to Monday for January 9 from 2011.
  9. That drop for Rogue One from Sunday's number seems very normal when looking at the Sunday to Monday drops for the same day and date from 2011.
  10. The key for me for the spinoff movies long term is that they branch out and actually utilize the scope of the Star Wars universe. I loved Rogue One and based on the team involved I think the Han Solo movie will be at least solid but I'd really like to see them set movies in different time periods and that aren't directly connected to the main saga if they are going to continue to do spinoffs.
  11. I have to say I find it hilarious that the Avatar fans are the on a that criticize another movie the most for having an unoriginal plot when that movie's plot is the same of a ton of movies that have come before it and every character in the film is a cliche.
  12. Based on what? The kids I saw it with (10 and 12) loved it and it seems like exit polling said kids liked it as well.
  13. That might be true but Potter movies have been more frontloaded than Star Wars films.
  14. Yeah, I'd be very interested to see how Rogue One is holding on day 2 in Australia. That is probably actually the best indicator we have for how the rest of this weekend will go in the US. Obviously a great number doesn't mean Rogue One will do great the rest of the weekend here or vice versa but that is probably the best predictor we can have for the rest of this weekend.