Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. A May release already did it. A superior film to TFA and released in the same year.
  2. OT: Can anyone be kind enough to tweet/write to RT to change Spider-Man 2's score from 93% to 94%? It's got the sufficient number of fresh reviews but for some reason the score didn't move when the last necessary review was added. I don't have twitter/facebook otherwise i would have done it myself. Sorry for the OT post and please continue with the jubilation.
  3. 2008 The Dark Knight 94% 2009 Wolverine Origins 38% 2016 Batman vs Superman 27% 2017 Logan 94%
  4. It's also the third highest ever for a Marvel film after Spider-Man 2 with 83 and Iron Man with 79. The reviews are fantastic! 77 on MC and 93% with 7.9/10 on RT.
  5. In my opinion there are two great superhero films: Spider-Man 2 and The Dark Knight. Everything else belongs somewhere between horrible to very good echelons.
  6. As a non-SW fan, this was everything i wanted from a Star Wars film!
  7. 1. Empire 2. A New Hope 3. Rogue One 4. Revenge Of The Sith 5. Attack of The Clones 6. A Recycled Hope 7. The Phantom Menace
  8. I'm with you all the way. It's a copy sold on nostalgia. They did a marvelous job of selling it, kudos to them. What they didn't offer was a sequel.
  9. As someone who disliked everything about TFA, i can safely say i really, really enjoyed this. The stakes are real, the characters grounded and worth rooting for, no comic relief to ease the tension and the last 15-20 minutes are truly spectacular. These are the heroes i was looking for.
  10. It was a textbook example of the five stages: Denial: It's only a spike! It'll soon stabilize! Anger: Fuck the Marvel-paid/grit hating/mindless jokes loving critics! Bargaining: This might not be great but Suicide Squad will be amazing! That film looks a sure-fire critics hit! Depression: How difficult could it be to make a good Batman, Superman and Wonder-Woman film? Marvel can make a good film out of Guardians but DC can't with the Trinity? Why God (Nolan) why??? Acceptance: We still have The Dark Knight!
  11. Parker's character in the first two Raimi films is fantastically written. He makes mistakes but has a sense of humility and doesn't let authority cloud his mind. He never trusts Osbourne, he declines his offer for a job even before he knew he was the Goblin, he questions Octavius' equations when they have dinner and saves the day when he realised before everyone that experiment was going wrong. On the other hand you have Marvel's misguided, idol-stricken, indoctrinated idiot that takes Stark's word for granted and accepts to risk his life for no reason whatsoever except he was blackmailed to do it. (Come with us or i'll tell your Aunt.) Then he proceeds to fight Cap and Co. and just parrots what Stark told him proving he's as gullible as they come. Spider-Man is fiercely independent in every single version the character, whether Lee's version or the Ultimate one. This kid is like a wannabe gangbanger who tries to impress the gang leader against the other gang so he can get in. Like i said, hopefully i'm wrong but everything from the pre-production to screenplay leaks has led me to believe that i'm going to dislike this version as much as Webb's.
  12. Holland's highly caffeinated take on Spider-Man just doesn't do it for me. He acts shocked at everything unusual he sees, even though he's literally half human half spider in a world where superheroes are public, along with alien invasions and Norse Gods. Being Stark's errand boy for no logical reason except to shoehorn the character into Civil War and now Stark being the one who makes the costume and the upgrades? He's taking the role of Uncle Ben in Peter's life and that's just not Spider-Man. Not for me. Spidey's my favorite character so i paid to endure Webb's carbon copy + his follow up abomination, and of course i'm seeing this in cinemas but i have no excitement at all. Hopefully i'm wrong and this is great.
  13. Mister Doctor is going to have a bigger second weekend than Guardians and a slight chance of beating Suicide Squad's second weekend. Even if it fails, it's going to be close, which by itself is fantastic. Absolutely delighted with the reception of the film!