Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. Critics don't give af about coming across as "petulant whiners". As for feminist icon, if WB/DC had ruined the very first Wonder Woman movie, greenlit after 3/4th of a century, critics would have most likely turned into the Furies incarnate.
  2. With these types it is always the inability to get laid or strike any kind of normal relationship with a woman (which, gee I wonder why) that they project onto EVERYTHING. This tweet is on point regarding top hat Doubting Tommy pictured above who wants to go to court over the existence of what is essentially ladies night
  3. In the sequel, Wonder Woman's villain should be The Fragile Man. Mr. Glass would be proud.
  4. I cannot unsee how the RDJ face/Tomei hair mashup looks perfectly Jesus-y
  5. I actually think that's RDJ's screentime tbh. Have a feeling this is a Leto Joker situation all over again. I have seen leaked images of scenes with both girls that haven't been teased in any of the promo material so far, so it is very possible they are underselling the high school stuff.
  6. I think they may have about equal screen time but Zendaya's character could be more crucial to the franchise in the future.
  7. Lol that is kind of a disingenuous statement as it brushes some very specific factors like outrage over colorblind casting under "equal criticisms for the genders". Anyway, when it comes to women, a lot more emphasis is given to their looks and their age, especially the size of their bust and hips. Whether it was Wonder Woman or Lois Lane. Just a few months back we had days of non-stop bitching about rumors of a non-redhead actress playing Mary Jane in Spider-Man: Homecoming, as if the color of the character's hair was the only thing that mattered. The reduction of women, both the actresses cast in the roles and the fictional characters they are playing, to these superficial traits, is the textbook example of sexism and objectification.
  8. Yeah but as Goffe said, the studio really pulled a number on that film. Also, the "no supervillains" part sounds really refreshing. The Demon Bear should ideally be like a cross between It and Pet Cemetary (plus its own weird mystical thing). The YA part may still be there as Boone mentioned "John Hughes meets Stephen King" again, and he explicitly mentioned the connection between the source material to his own adolescence. I think Fox has learned its lesson now after the floppage of Fant4stic and the success of Deadpool and Logan. Apocalypse flaws were down purely to Singer/Kinberg creative decisions, as opposed to studio meddling. They are rumored to be hiring an actor from the show, not being inspired by the show. And yeah, it looks like "genre entertainment" is more open to casting actresses of color (also see Zoe Saldanha).
  9. Looks like this will be the first "superhero teen horror" movie. Also, Rosario Dawson and 13 Reasons Why's Henry Zaga rumored for roles.
  10. That's what I meant. She delivered what was humanly expected of her in the Fast movies, considering how little she or anybody else is given to work with in those films in terms of acting. I mentioned Criminal because someone I know specifically mentioned her character was allowed a little more emotional range there than in her other films so far (that's not saying much but that's something?), and even if the film itself was weak ass, apparently her performance was effective enough.
  11. She was fun in Fast 5 too. Maybe one day I'll be brave enough to endure Criminal, as everyone who has watched it said she was pretty good in it.