Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. Hopefully Americans will actually show up for this one
  2. Director: Pete Sohn Release Date: November 25, 2015 CLUBS: The Good Dinosaur over 270 mil DOM The Good Dinosaur Over Inside Out The Good Dinosaur Over 750M WW The Good Dinosaur Over 90M 5 day
  3. "Oh brother." $742m OS
  4. Working on getting the animation cleaned up and smoothed out for this, but it was a fun bit of practice.
  5. Tomorrow I'll be attending a lecture and getting a chance to talk to storyboard artist and animator Rafael Rosado. He did primarily animated series (notably he storyboarded on Animaniacs, Pinky and the Brain, Teen Titans and Transformers Prime, among others). I'm looking forward to this, as well as discussing on the idea working with him on something in the upcoming future.
  6. 1. Zero: a stunningly and beautifully crafted animation with quintessential execution and delivery paired with an emotional, perilous, and lost lorn plot structure that will leave audiences appalled and teary eyed. 2. Paperman: Disney's return to critical acclaim stature, Paper-man offers gorgeous animation topped off with a heartwarming tale about love. 3. Feast: Feast offers finely detailed animation with an embracing and calming ambiance. The plot structure may seem overdone but the execution will have you reeling. 4. La Luna: One of Pixar's best offerings animated shorts wise, La Luna delivers and then some. 5. Partly Cloudy: Creative, hilarious, and heartwarming. 6. The Maker: Depressing yet oddly heartwarming. 7. Students: Unconventional to a degree yet enticing and adventurous in its political message. 8. Descendants: Thought provoking world with a powerful ending. 9. The Little Matchgirl: When it comes to storytelling, The Little Matchgirl offers an exquisite tale topped with an emotionally wrecking ending. 10. Coda: Dark, brooding, and thoughtful, Coda offers something animation is keen to avoid. 11. Yearbook: A must-see this animated short is simply amazing. 12. Sweet Cocoon: Entertaining yet offers a thought provoking ending about life. What are your "Best Animated Shorts?"
  7. The biggest Holiday animations are FROZEN and BH6 with ~400M and $222,527,828 respectively. I will leave FROZEN out of this. SING's goal should be to target BH6. I feel it will fall below for the following reasons, - ROGUE ONE releases 5 days before SING and will take away a lot of eyeballs and hype. Not that it shuts the door for anyone to do well, but we are talking about Under/Over here where every penny counts. - ZOOTOPIA successfully symbolized diverse humans as different animals, while in SING portraying animals instead of humans seems to be less deep and for the sake of it. Could be perceived as ZOOTP-Lite. - MOANA, also an animated musical will release in November and do great business IMO and take away some thunder. A lesser reason than above but again, every penny counts. I have SING under BH6's $222,527,828 domestic. IN (Under BH6) a2k NCsoft kowhite WrathOfHan OUT (Over BH6) Baumer(260) RandomJC Hiccup23 (240-245) YourMother (250+) filmlover nilephelan (300+) MrFanaticGuy34 (235-265) Blankments (300+) Ethan Hunt Jayhawk fracfar (250+) Arlborn (over 300) James MinaTakla (250-260) Joel M (over 250) Robot308 acab Melvin Frohike (300-400) DAJK Tower FantasticBeasts Imja edroger3 jandrew robertman2
  8. As you know both Moana (11/23) and Sing (12/23) are opening this holiday, both with respectively grosses. I think Sing will likely make more than Moana, for a few key reasons. 1.) Illumination is kind of a brand name now. 2.) Moana has more family competition (DS, Trolls, FB) than Sing (RO). 3.) Sing has been marketed more than Moana these past few months, and each trailer getting more views. It also seems likely that Disney will put more effort in promoting Rogue One and Doctor Strange this holiday, than Moana, similar to how TGD barely got promoted last year when The Force Awakens was about to be released. 4.) The first 20 minutes of Sing was shown at TIFF with seemingly good buzz. 5.) An almost done cut of Sing was also screened at TIFF with great reviews, most notable was Variety comparing Sing to a Pixar, WDAS, and Dreamworks level of quality. 6.) There has been minimal marketing for Moana, and Trolls had a decent OW along with Strange breaking out, and Beasts nearby, Moana may underperform, so things are looking good for Sing. My predictions for each are Moana: 65/90/305 Sing: 60/85/320 1/29/17: This club was a huge success and my first victory here. Although my predictions were way off Sing broke out big thanks to the holiday season, great weekdays, and the marketing power of Illumination. Actuals: Moana: $56.6M (3 Day)/$82M (5 Day)/$250M-$255M (projected total) Sing: $35.2M (3 Day)/$55.8M (5 Day)/$75M (6 Day)/$270M-$275M (projected total) IN (Might of the Lady Gaga pigs) YourMother ($320M Sing, $305M Moana) WrathOfHan narniadis ($300M or over for Sing) Truckasaurus BenedictL11 CaptainJackSparrow Spaghetti Hiccup23 DAJK RandomJC Krissykins fracfar CaptainH OUT (Maui Power!) Water Bottle Cjohn Cannastop Blankments Jason RascarCapat a2knet (<$250M Sing, >$250M Moana) Claudio Arlborn (>$300M Sing, Moana > Sing) The Panda tribefan695 Daniel Dylan Davis
  9. So this one. It's from the creators of The Lego Movie (which made only $211 million international). The premise looks interesting and the animation is definitely appealing (those babies are pretty cute). I'd say $100-150 million for now, but it could approach $200 million if advertised effectively and is actually good.
  10. In about a few weeks from now, Storks is coming out in theaters. I can see Storks being a decent hit domestic wise. I believe this can make over Hotel Translyvania for a few reasons. 1. Storks arrive after IA5, Kubo, and Pete's Dragon, all of which have failed to capture the attention of families, which can bode well for Storks being a huge hit. 2. It's screening early starting tomorrow (8/27), a month before it releases, WB has a lot of confidence in this to screen it early. 3. Animated movies have do quite well in the late September slot. (Cloudy 1 & 2, HT, HT2, Open Season) 4. The only competition it has do deal with is The Wild Life, which won't be big, and Trolls, which won't be until November. So who's in and who's out? IN Me ThatOneMechanic cannastop CaptainJackSparrow MrFanaticGuy34 James Water Bottle mahnamahna Robot308 OUT WrathOfHan DAJK Ethan Hunt goldenstate5 Spaghetti Jonwo chrisman0606 Claudio Daniel Dylan Davis Hiccup23 Mojoguy junkshop36
  11. So, a lot of the overall storyline is worked out, but this particular project is probably going to be on the back burner until my other webcomic starts posting later this year. But I'm enjoying these characters and this world so I really hope to do more with them aliens are pretty gay. I think my own queerness shines through with this. lol
  12. Here are some previews for a project I'm doing some work on. It remains to be seen if this will be animated, but a lot of my animation influences are pretty clear here. This is a basic sci-fi story in the noir/mystery vein but with brighter colours.
  13. With the release of Zootopia, something has made me perk up a little bit; how long can Disney sustain this box office fire streak or as others have labeled it: Disney's Resurgence Era? After Walt Disney's unfortunate death, Walt Disney Animation Studios went through an arduous era in which a lack of creativity and drive resulted in the brink of extinction only to be brought back by Oliver and Company/The Little Mermaid. Anyone familiar with Disney's history knows that after Oliver and Company/The Little Mermaid, animation classics began to be churned out by the Disney factory which not only resulted in gargantuan box office successes but also critical acclaim. This era of Disney's life would be known as the Renaissance Era and was a pinnacle point in Disney's career as an animation studio house. As with Oliver and Company/The Little Mermaid, Bolt/The Princess and the Frog (debatable) brought a reignited interest in Disney and their products. Soon enough, Disney began to haul out animation success after success and reached fever pitch with the phenomenon known as Frozen which not only became at one point, the fifth highest grossing film of all time unadjusted but obtained the crown as the highest grossing animated film of all time unadjusted. Frozen was followed by Big Hero 6 which amassed over $220 million at the U.S. box office and over $650 million worldwide! Disney released their 55th animated feature; Zootopia which opened to unanimous praise and gargantuan box office success: will become only the 10th animated feature to cross the $300 million domestic mark, became the highest grossing animated film in China and currently stands at No. 10 on the all-time charts, and could become the 4th animated feature to cross the $1 billion mark. So, my question is, how long will Disney sustain their box office success? Will their future releases become modest hits without any significant impact on Disney's brand, will they become box office successes, or will they become the calm before the storm? Will Moana, Frozen 2, or Gigantic prove to be misfires? Beginning in 2008, with the release of Bolt, Disney began their comeback into the animation world. How long will it last? Disney Resurgence Era: - Bolt, 2008, $309 million WW - The Princess and the Frog, 2009, $267 million WW - Tangled, 2010, $591 million WW - Winnie the Pooh, 2011, $44.7 million WW - Wreck-It Ralph, 2012, $471 million WW - Frozen, 2013, $1.274 billion WW - Big Hero 6, 2014, $657 million WW - Zootopia, 2016, $800 million - 1 billion WW ~ Approx. $4.4 billion WW w/ an average gross of $550 million WW per film and 89.5% (positive) average critical reception Upcoming Projects: - Moana (2016) - Frozen 2 (N/A) - Gigantic (2018) - Wreck-It Ralph 2 (N/A) Oscars: - 12 nominations (3 short nominations) - 5 wins
  14. To introduce the company, Laika Entertainment is a company based in Oregon and specializes in animation, especially stop motion, whom all of their feature films have been created through. Their company was founded in 2005 and have released, to this point, three feature films: Coraline, ParaNorman, and the Box Trolls. Unlike the animation giants such as Disney and Pixar, Laika does not produce large budgeted feature films, rather moderate ones in which profit is guaranteed. However, recently, Laika has announced that they will be exclusively working with producing feature films, churning out a feature film per year beginning with Kubo and the Two Strings coming this August, 2016. Keeping in mind the box office track of their previous offerings, one may wonder, how will Laika expand its current audience to reach a broader appeal and commercial value compared to the other animation giants out there in the playing field to enable success? One may say that this plan will fail due to several factors: with so many animation departments and animation films getting released each year, competition has increased and adding in Laika's marketing, appeal, etc... it's inevitable this plan is more likely to fail than succeed. However, my question is, will Laika become another animation powerhouse? I believe that Kubo and the Two Strings, their next offer has the potential to beak out given its universally understandable premise of becoming a hero to save others and add in gods, magical items and weapons, etc.. it seems poised to becpke a $100+ million success. Early online activity for Kubo and the Two Strings have been positive, with many pointing out the exquisite detail of the animation (The Youtube trailer is almost at 500.000 views). However, others have criticized the marketing tactic used to employ the spotlight onto the voice actors and actresses as opposed to selling the story and animators. Coraline may have gotten their name on the map but Laika has yet to reach that level of appeal and success again as their most recent films have done poorly in the overseas market and domestic performance is somewhat staggered and barely profitable. Will Kubo and the Two Strings enable Laika to play with the big leagues or will it not break out? Cast your votes and tell me what you think!
  15. Spongebob Squarepants 2 over Rango DOM SpongeBob: Sponge Out of Water Over 40m OW Spongebob: Sponge Out Of Water OW DOUBLE Jupiter 4scending OW Club
  16. 68m/280m How to Train Your Dragon 2>300M Flight HTTYD 2 #1 film of Summer 2014 Club! [Domestically] How to Train Your Dragon 2 OVER Monsters University WW($744M) How to Train Your Dragon 2 over 80 mil OW How To Train Your Dragon 2 Over Frozen Dom or WW? HTTYD2 and 22JS combined OW over Monsters U and WWZ combined OW HTTYD2 Under $70m OW HTTYD2 below 35.2% 2nd Weekend drop Club
  17. Hey everyone, welcome to Key Frames! This blog is dedicated to animation news, reviews of animated movies and tv shows and information about animation. There is bound to be a lot of art on this blog, so be prepared! I'm working on lining up some blog features! More info to come!
  18. Discuss! Monsters University OVER 80M OW Monsters University Under 270M Case Monsters University over 350M Frat MAN OF STEEL versus MONSTERS UNIVERSITY Despicable Me 2 vs Monsters University
  19. I'm thinking this is the suprise winner of summer 2013. 78m/320m Despicable Me 2 Over Shrek 2 Despicable Me to win the summer of 2013 Club Despicable Me 2 Under $300 Million Domestic Despicable Me 2 vs Monsters University Despicable me 2 5 day 125m Despicable Me 2 OVER 30M Opening Day Club Despicable Me 2 July Domination Club (#1 for 3 weekends) Despicable Me 2 Club of the only July release Above $150 million
  20. Leafmen/EPIC Director: Chris Wedge Production: Blue Sky Studios Distributor: FOX Release date: May 24, 2013 Post your predictions. EPIC: Under $120m Alliance EPIC Over Rio (484M) WW
  21. Directors: Kirk De Micco, Chris Sanders Screenwriters: Kirk De Micco, Chris Sanders Voice cast: Emma Stone, Nicolas Cage, Ryan Reynolds
  22. Director: Peter Ramsey Screenwriter: David Lindsay-Abaire Voice cast: Hugh Jackman, Jude Law, Chris Pine I really hope they change that title before its release. It just sounds so bland... Rise of the Guardians: 160M DOM & 400M WW Rise of the Guardians: Lowest Grossing Dreamworks Movie (<126m) Club Life of Pi vs. ROG-what will win?
  23. Director: Cal Brunker Screenwriters: Cal Bruker, Bob Barlen, Tony Leech, Cory Edwards Cast: Brendan Fraser, Rob Corddry, Jessica Alba, James Gandolfini Synopsis Weinstein's in another legal dispute over this movie's release http://www.hollywood...creening-345562