Sunshine, Light, and Joy
This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:
Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.
There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.
To have fun.
And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.
So this post is both a request and a warning.
The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.
The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.
Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".
They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.
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YourMother posted a topic in Box Office DiscussionWhat'll likely be one of the worst movies of 2017 will likely breakout and you know what movie I'm talking about. The Emoji Movie. Unfortunately I can see it making $100M at the domestic box office for a few reasons. 1.) Emoji Movie benefits from an extremely barren August along with no family competition until Ninjago 2.) It could surprise and be decent (0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of happening) 3.) Marketing for this will be rampant. 4.) It has a Hotel Transylvania short which could possibly add interest. So are you in or out? IN: (😀) OUT: (😡)
One of the biggest box office surprises is getting a sequel that is bound to be BIG, Guardians of The Galaxy Vol. 2. While I don't seeing it making an OW the size of Avengers ($207.4M) or AoU ($191.1M), I can see it having an OW of galactic proportions for a few reasons. 4/14- Updated reasons due to recent events 1.) While sequels tend to decline at the box office (AoU, Empire, etc.,), GoTG grossed over $330M in 2014 and unlike AoU or Civil War, you don't need to see 5 other movies to understand it fully and it seems to be less dramatic which could be good for it. 2.) The Marvel Cinematic Universe owns 4 of the top 10 in opening weekends in America. All of which were on the first weekend of May, which GoTGv2 is also opening on. Not to mention weak competition in May. 3.) James Gunn is back in the director's chair for this. 4.) Baby Groot, although has been slightly annoying in marketing, kids have loved it. 5.) Although marketing and online buzz has been muted for this, buzz with the General Audience has been great, getting great reactions for trailers in cinema, and in a few weeks, reviews (Disney cash) comes in and the marketing becomes rampant. Even with shit marketing, Doctor Strange did over $85M OW against Trolls ($45M OW). Now are you in or out? IN (Make America Groot Again) Me $155M/$380M DAJK ThatOneGuy elcaballero DMan7 MrFanaticGuy34 vc2002 JennaJ Arlborn Mango FlashMaster659 Jayhawk RandomJC Guy Cohen Kalo KevinPR Jack cheesypoofs 75live Daxtreme Nosferatu Zodd Ocho ThomasNicole Momo Talkie seduh trifle eXtacy OUT (Not a family) ChipMunky Gray Ghost ($145M) Sam ($145M) department store basement franfar ($145M) John Marston ($120M) keysersoze123 ($140M) Lordmandeep Nova ($130Ms) WrathOfHan ($120M) jandrew
Throughout spring break, while Beauty and the Beast and Fate of the Furious will be the juggernauts, a smaller box office battle will occur between blue people and Trump's baby. From the creator of Sing>Moana Domestic club comes Boss Baby>Smurfs Domestic club, which I think will happen for a few reasons: 1.) Boss Baby has more/better marketing, the trailers for this has killed at Rogue One and Sing. 2.) Smurfs has to deal with the bad WOM from the other 2 Smurfs movies. 3.) Boss Baby has slightly less competition than Smurfs and will likely get the better reviews. So are you in or out? IN: (Daddy's Boy/Girl) OUT: (NAABP)
From the maker of the likely successful Sing over Moana club comes Sing making over $300M domestic club. Sing could make over $300M for a few reasons: 1.) Sing is currently following a projection at $180M by Monday, with weak family competition and a barren January could allow Sing to belt out $300M. 2.) It's WOM has been fantastic so far with a showstopper 3rd act. So are you in or out? IN Out
CLUB REASONS: FF6 (550 OS) huge overseas increase to FF5 (416 OS) can bring up to FF7 because the franchise is getting better reviews. That's 134 million increase. If the increase continued at the same rate, FF7 will gross around 684 OS.Minions is a spin-off film.The Minions is not a contender here, ceiling over Despicable 2 is unlikely. It will fall short of it.Minions will have some competitors around its release, Terminator Genisys & Ant-Man.The Fast and Furious franchise is really getting bigger. Paul Walker's death has forced the colossal marketing push of Universal. Minions is ultimately poised to gross less than Despicable Me 2 due to fact that it is a spin-off film. It would be great if FF7 even crosses 1B but it has very minimal chance of happening. I hope that FF7 will have a higher re-watch factor than Minions. Estimates: 280mln DOM / 680mln OS / 960mln WW for FURIOUS 7 305mln DOM / 640mln OS / 945mln WW for MINIONS TEAM FURIOUS:Calypsusacetabulum7DurdenGokai RedSorcerer SupremeRaphael PotterNoctisky02121JohnnyGossamerBaritone PridePypa94Age of RobertonTEAM MINIONS:treeroyCaptain Jack SparrowJohn MarstonAndyLLpicores The club will close in March 27, 2015, a week before the release date of Furious 7.
Asyulus posted a topic in Box Office DiscussionCLUB REASONS: - With shocking OW, this could end up to 350mln DOM - R-rated huge openings usually have great DOM numbers - Overseas, it should go great business in Europe, more signficantly in Italy - Very strong marketing campaign Assuming this ends with 350mln DOM, it should make mln 270 OS so 620mln WW SNIPERS (In both DOM and WW) -Calypsus -mahnamahna -Masterwolf -Captain Jack Sparrow -B J MEDICS (In DOM but out WW) RIFLEMEN (Out DOM but in WW) PASSIONISTS (Out both DOM and WW) -DAJK -fracfar -Age of Roberton -Donald -Stripe -Hatebox -Icicle -sfran43 Club closes in February 30, 2015.