Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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Moana | 11/23/16 | Teaser Trailer on Page 33

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You can always rely on Disney to squeeze every last drop out of that udder! :P But I'm ecstatic that there will be a Sing Along. The film is really deserving of that little extra $$$

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Chart (2016–17) Peak
position
US Kid Albums (Billboard)[35] 1
US Soundtrack Albums (Billboard)[36] 1
UK Soundtrack Albums (OCC)[33] 2
US Billboard 200[34]
[2]
2
New Zealand Albums (RMNZ)[28] 3
Australian Albums (ARIA)[18] 4
Austrian Albums (Ö3 Austria)[19]
Vaiana
8
German Albums (Offizielle Top 100)[25]
Vaiana
12
Canadian Albums (Billboard)[22] 14
Swiss Albums (Schweizer Hitparade)[31]
Vaiana
18
UK Albums (OCC)[32] 27
Scottish Albums (OCC)[29] 29
French Albums (SNEP)[24]
Vaiana
34
Irish Albums (IRMA)[26]
[27]
44
Spanish Albums (PROMUSICAE)[30]
Vaiana
69
Dutch Albums (MegaCharts)[23]
Vaiana
73
Belgian Albums (Ultratop Flanders)[20]
Vaiana
86
Belgian Albums (Ultratop Wallonia)[21]
Vaiana
87

Tracks[edit]

Track title Performer(s) Peak positions
US
[10][16][37]
AUS
[38]
CAN
[39]
NZ
[40]
UK
[41]
"How Far I'll Go" Auli'i Cravalho 41 58 [A] 94
"How Far I'll Go" Alessia Cara 58 67 55 37
"You're Welcome" Dwayne Johnson 65 86
"We Know the Way" Opetaia Foa'i & Lin-Manuel Miranda 93 [C]

 

"How Far I'll Go" is expected to rise once more and finally hit the Top 40 and possibly Top 20.  There are already talks about a Broadway adaptation and Moana will have a VERY hard time hitting #1 as the La La Land soundtrack is doing PHENOMENAL business overseas and domestically and could hit #1 this week. 

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Soundtrack
Moana


Walt Disney
77.000 sales this week / 216.000 sales in total

 

 

 

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How Far I'll Go is discounted in itunes.

 

Disney is in it for the win. Hopefully the sing-along gives a new life to the song.

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We didn't have the soundtrack at our Target, which is both :D & :( (I wanted to buy one).

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39 minutes ago, Morieris said:

We didn't have the soundtrack at our Target, which is both :D & :( (I wanted to buy one).

Who still uses CDs?

 

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18 minutes ago, cannastop said:

Who still uses CDs?

 

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Sometimes you just gotta Try Everything.

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5 hours ago, cannastop said:

Who still uses CDs?

 

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I check out CDs from the library, rip them to my computer, upload them to Google play, then download to my phone for listening. 

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29 minutes ago, shayhiri said:

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Favorites from each era:

 

The Golden Era - Pinnochio and Snow White 

The Silver Age - Alice in Wonderland, Cinderella, and Sleeping Beauty 

The Bronze Age - N/A 

The Dark Age - N/A

The Renaissance - The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Alladin, The Lion King, Mulan, and Hunchback of Notre Dame 

The Experimental Era - The Emperor's New Grooze, Lilo and Stitch, Atlantis, Treasure Island, Meet the Robinsons, and Bolt

The Revival/Resurgence Era - Tangled, Wreck-it Ralph, Frozen, Big Hero 6, Zootopia, and Moana

 

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I think TPatF should be "Experimental Era" too as it was still an experiment to see if 2D animation and the musical could be revived. The results were inconclusive on both fronts. 2D animation would get one last chance with Pooh '11 and as for musicals, there were reports that after TPatF's underperformance, Lasseter thought the genre was dunzo and Tangled was only released because by that point they had already invested a ton of resources into it. WDAS was prepared for a repeat disappointment but fortunately Tangled and Rapunzel came through for the studio, its trademark musicals and the potent Disney Princess brand.

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Lol the Revival Era started with Tangled, not PATF

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1 hour ago, shayhiri said:

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I think I like all of the dark age films (although I haven't seen Oliver and Company since I was little).

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Saw Moana yesterday in a surprisingly nearly sold out theater.  There were only 3 shows available, so I guess that's why.  Great movie.  

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11 hours ago, Dingdong123 said:

Lol the Revival Era started with Tangled, not PATF

 

Disagree. PATF marked a return to the more classic themes of traditional Disney animation. IMO an artistic line is warranted between it and Bolt, even though Bolt did better at the box office. Bolt was in line with those other 2000s films that I think the other poster captures nicely with the "experimental" tag, though one could less charitably call it a "groping for footing in Pixar's shadow" period after the massive bonanza of the 90s. 

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Disney's revival hasn't been all about being traditional, though. Wreck-It Ralph, Big Hero 6 and Zootopia's tones all fall more in line with other contemporary animated films. 

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