Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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Logan | aka The Wolverine 3 | March 3, 2017 | Second Trailer on Page 53

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Saw this Sunday, it's one hell of a film and on an entirely different plane of filmmaking than ALL previous X-Men movies.

 

But when in the hell as with that...

 

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...Deadpool shit before the film? Completely retarded and the antithesis of Logan.

 

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Mangold has had another go at contemporary blockbusters, calling them '2 hour trailers'. http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/wolverine/news/a824099/logan-director-slams-superhero-movies-as-two-hour-trailers/

 

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They are not movies. They are bloated exercises in two-hour trailers for another movie they are going to sell you in two years.There are so many characters that each character gets an arc of about six-and-a-half minutes at best, and I'm not exaggerating. You take 120 minutes, you take 45 of it for action, what are you left with? Divide it by six characters, you have the character arc of Elmer Fudd in a Warner Bros cartoon. That formula is empty for me.

 

Surprisingly, Marvel has yet to offer him a job on the MCU.

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600m worldwide passed

 

 

Domestic:  $221,656,574    36.7%
Foreign:  $381,549,109    63.3%

Worldwide:  $603,205,683  
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On 3/22/2017 at 9:19 AM, Hatebox said:

Mangold has had another go at contemporary blockbusters, calling them '2 hour trailers'. http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/wolverine/news/a824099/logan-director-slams-superhero-movies-as-two-hour-trailers/

 

 

Surprisingly, Marvel has yet to offer him a job on the MCU.

 

He's also right on point.

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It s not that hard to make a great movie when 

 

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you kill an iconic character in your movie, played by a very charismatic actor everyone will regret in said role.

 

Almost Any basic can do this.

-_-

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5 hours ago, 2 Panda 2 Furious said:

 

He's also right on point.

Superhero Fatigue I am guessing.

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Posted (edited)

Logan is the 71th best movie EVAH according to IMDB.

 

:lol::insane:

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1 hour ago, The Futurist said:

Logan is the 71th best movie EVAH according to IMDB.

 

:lol::insane:

 

Most overrated blockbuster since Winter Solider 

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2 hours ago, The Futurist said:

Logan is the 71th best movie EVAH according to IMDB.

 

:lol::insane:

 

Disappointed by IMDb. I thought it would be No. 1 for some time and settle in the Top 12. But I guess the site's seeing an exodus of fanbois after the shutting down of the forums.

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8 hours ago, chrisman0606 said:

Superhero Fatigue I am guessing.

 

I like some of them.  Logan, Deadpool and Guardians were all recent ones that I really enjoyed.

 

But the majority of them range from flat out bad to serviceable, and they really all do seem like trailers for the next movie.  Very few of them have complete character arcs.

 

And I'm not even sure how something like Infinity War is going to work when you have, what, 25 or so named characters in it?  It's the size of a large TV Show cast, except it doesn't have the TV show setting to develop them and relationships between them.  It also makes the big crossover movies less desirable to see because they'll throw in x plot point from some random movie three years ago and expect the audience to catch on right away.  I've seen all of the Marvel movies and had that problem in Civil War.  There's just too much that goes on in nearly all of these movies.

 

It's why I liked Logan, Deadpool and GOTG quite a bit.  They were their own things, had complete arcs, and even the sequel set up bits for GOTG and Deadpool didn't seem like trailers in the movie.

 

It's why these movies are having diminishing returns.  Crossing over was a neat gimmick at first, and I'm sure real fans still love it, but it becomes a headache to casual viewers once you get stuff like Civil War.

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Logan, Deadpool and DOFP are all generally considered to be great superhero movies, right? And yet a certain crowd still tends to dismiss FOX's XCU. Okay then.

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On 4/18/2017 at 11:41 AM, Arlborn said:

Logan, Deadpool and DOFP are all generally considered to be great superhero movies, right? And yet a certain crowd still tends to dismiss FOX's XCU. Okay then.

I really enjoy mcu and xcu. Those are my top 3 of the xcu.

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Anyone see the steelbook cover yet? Not sure I like it, and of course I already have it pre-ordered. I do see that it comes with the regular version and black and white though which is pretty cool 

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On 4/18/2017 at 1:05 AM, Jay Hollywood said:

 

Most overrated blockbuster since Winter Solider 

 

Maybe. But it is my favorite XMen movie, despite the fact that Jen isn't in it.

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Logan is definitely this years Best Movie loved every bit of it! Well acted, Good story, Amazing action, Lots of Goosebumps kind of moments and what not.

Hugh was at his best!! Never liked him as an "Actor". But he proved me wrong he was too good as Old man Logan. I always thought he was decent actor who could churn out decent performance from time to time depending on genre.

Logan definitely deserves all the acclaim and accolades. 

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46 minutes ago, John Rambo said:

Logan is definitely this years Best Movie loved every bit of it! Well acted, Good story, Amazing action, Lots of Goosebumps kind of moments and what not.

Hugh was at his best!! Never liked him as an "Actor". But he proved me wrong he was too good as Old man Logan. I always thought he was decent actor who could churn out decent performance from time to time depending on genre.

Logan definitely deserves all the acclaim and accolades. 

He's always been perfect for Wolverine in my opinion 

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