Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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Avatar 2 | Dec 18, 2020 | Production underway soon | Secretive project is secretive | FOUR sequels officially announced

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How to upload an Avatar? Do we have a database yet, like we did on Mojo?

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No, just go to edit profile and you can put in whatever you want!

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But back to avatar :P It will make its release date, have a massive OW, then have little legs.. while A3 will have a lesser OW but longer legs! Well probably not, but that is how these things usually go!

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Initial prediction115M/505M Domestic1505M Overseas

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I'd say probably 130-150/450-500 Domestic and 1500-1800 OS, we love our sequels at least! But wayyy to early to know hahaha

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Only $505m, seriously?

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I think it has a massive range from about 400-700 depending on if it does the first one justice. If its seen as even similar to the first one it'll bring in the crowds. But if its at all seen as a disappointment then it might have short legs.

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Only $505m, seriously?

All the relevant comparisons suggest so.

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That's quite a fall, embarrassing even (well I'd be embarrassed anyway).

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All the major sci-fi phenoms (i.e. Jurassic Park, Star wars, TPM etc) decreased significantly with the sequel.

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Hardly embarrassing. If it made any more then 550m then I think that would be a real achievement. International is where I can see it not fall as much (or possibly increase??)

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There's no question that this will decrease domestically from the first one. If it passes 500M then its a huge achievement. I think internationally it will be all over the place. Countries like UK, Australia, Germany, it will probably fall. Countries like China and Russia, it will probably increase over the first one. Where it lands in the end is anybody's guess.

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I would give it a 30% chance of increasing domestically, just a number I've pulled out of my ass.I think once we see the trailer people will change their minds about it dropping.

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I would give it a 30% chance of increasing domestically, just a number I've pulled out of my ass.I think once we see the trailer people will change their minds about it dropping.

At least it'll have one thing going for it; Pent up demand, because I don't think it'll be released by 2014.

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I have to admit that James Cameron can do sequels well, and people know that. But I think it really depends on the trailers for OW. If it looks 1. Original, 2. Graphical awesome, it'll be big!

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If Avatar 2 has to increase from the previous one, or even stay in the same ballpark, it will have to become a must-see event like Avatar was. just being the sequel to Avatar won't be enough.

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0% chance of increasing domestically, it just was a perfect storm of factors that got it past $750M first time aroundand if it is going to reach its December 2014 release date then filming has to get going soon I would imagine

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