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This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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SPECTRE OS Thread | 80.4m OW | 80.4m OS Total | 6 Markets only - 63.8m from UK alone! Record Breaking | expands to 57 markets next week

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I too checked some presales in some cinemas

Much better than yesterday but nothing compared to Marvel/Transformers or LOTR/Hobbit for example

 

17 hours ago, Bond Bug said:

I am sure it is possible to make a perfect Bond movie, but I have not seen it yet. 

I've seen it in 2006:P

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5 hours ago, Filmovie said:

You can't compare two animated movide to Spectre.

 

It is good but not great, BTW.

 

 

Am comparing the grosses of the year's top 2 movies.

Regardless of their genres.

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DOM looking at $200m total...I cant see 1B WW now, it would need to match Skyfall OS and that's not happening. 900-925m WW looks more likely.

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Italy

Spectre earned €900k in it's second day, the total is now €1.5M


Skyfall was at €2.5M in two days.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Zamor said:

Italy

Spectre earned €900k in it's second day, the total is now €1.5M


Skyfall was at €2.5M in two days.

 

 

 

Big drop not even including the €/$ conversion rate compared to 2012

 

Looks like it's opening around MI5. (Edit - nope)   BOM has Skyfall's Italy opening at $7,043,445. That has to be with previews.

Edited by TalismanRing

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27 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

 

Big drop not even including the €/$ conversion rate compared to 2012

 

Looks like it's opening around MI5.    BOM has Skyfall's Italy opening at $7,043,445. That has to be with previews.

 

Nope, Skyfall was at $7.9M with Wednesday.

 

Spectre is going to earn a bit less than €5M till Sunday.

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5 hours ago, picores said:

DOM looking at $200m total...I cant see 1B WW now, it would need to match Skyfall OS and that's not happening. 900-925m WW looks more likely.

$200 million seems a bit low but looks like it will open to only $75 mil OW.

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With domestic opening only around $70-75 mln this have to pass Skyfall's $804 mln to cross $1 billion.

 

Edited by Juby
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This is a small market but still... Looks like the interest in Spectre is much, much lower than in Skyfall.

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Woop woop!

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Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic:  $73,000,000    24.4%
Foreign:  $226,000,000    75.6%

Worldwide:  $299,000,000  

 

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 Adding 71 more markets, Eon/MGM/Sony Pictures’Spectre picked up a further $117.8Moverseas. Including the U.S. bow of $73M this frame, that brings the worldwide cume to $300M in just under two weeks. At open last weekend, the superspy’s 24th installment grossed $80.1M across just six territories, led by a benchmark-setting $63.2M in the UK alone. With the current frame, Spectre in the UK has surged past $100M and is beating Skyfall in local currency comps.

 The UK held very well, dropping just 29% to add $21.3M. That pushes the cume to $100.2M. In local currency, the 14-day total for Spectre is £65.5M, 6% above Skyfall‘s £61.6M in the same number of days.

Germany at $20.1M

http://deadline.com/2015/11/spectre-james-bond-peanuts-movie-snoopy-maze-runner-china-international-box-office-results-1201614437/

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from boxoffice.com:

 

Spectre came in again at #1 at the international box office, this weekend targeting $117.8 million from 77 total markets. The film has grossed $198.2 million overseas after two weekends of release and $271.2 million worldwide. New openings include Germany ($20.1M) where Spectre had the biggest Saturday of all-time, Italy ($5.7M), Russia ($5.8M, 43% ahead of Skyfall), Spain ($3.3M), Switzerland ($4.1M), Latin America ($12.4M), Mexico ($4.5M), Brazil ($2.9M), SE Asia ($16.0M), Taiwan ($2.6M), Hong Kong ($2.4M), Malaysia ($2.3M), and Singapore ($1.8M). 

 

Top holdover markets include UK/Ireland (-29% for $21.3M/$100.2M cume), Netherlands (-10% for $3.3M/$8.4M cume), Denmark ($2.7M/$8.2M cume), Sweden ($2.2M/$7.0M cume), Finland ($1.4M/$4.9M cume), and Norway ($1.1M/$5.3M cume). Spectre opens Friday in China.

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Skyfall's first two weekends it opened everywhere except Australia, china and the US: 

Oct 28: $80m 
Nov 4: $287m 
Nov 11: $518m (Dom OW) 
Nov 18: $668m 
Nov 25: $792m (Aus added) 
Dec 2: $868m 
Dec 9: $918m 
Dec 16: $950m 
Dec 23: $974m 
Dec 30: $1000m 

Spectre 
Nov 1: $80m 
Nov 8: $289m  (edit - mojo was right, thanks talisman and kenter)

Spectre is missing a few markets still, right now imdb says France, SK, Aus and china show up next weekend, with Japan in December.

Edited by IMojammer
Update Spectre Nov8#
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At this time the only major O/S markets it hasn't opened in that Skyfall has are I think SK and France.  Like Skyfall it also has Aus, China and Japan left. 

 

It did $80m last w/ and $117.8m this w/e so it's $198m without weekdays so bo.com is wrong

 

Rentrak:

 

Spectre:    $190,800,000   $117,800,000   $73,000,000   $296,100,000   $223,100,000   $73,000,000
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1 hour ago, IMojammer said:

Skyfall's first two weekends it opened everywhere except Australia, china and the US: 

Oct 28: $80m 
Nov 4: $287m 
Nov 11: $518m (Dom OW) 
Nov 18: $668m 
Nov 25: $792m (Aus added) 
Dec 2: $868m 
Dec 9: $918m 
Dec 16: $950m 
Dec 23: $974m 
Dec 30: $1000m 

Spectre 
Nov 1: $80m 
Nov 8: $271m  (although mojo says 296 I think 271 is correct)

Spectre is missing a few markets still, right now imdb says France, SK, Aus and china show up next weekend, with Japan in December.

In fact, Boxoffice Mojo is correct. Spectre has made 226.0mdd instead of 198.2mdd. It made $117.8mdd this weekend, if you add 80.4mdd plus 117.8 you got $198.2mdd, But where are the grosses of the weekdays?

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