Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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kayumanggi

THE GOOD DINOSAUR | 209.1 M overseas | 332.2 M worldwide

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I want it to surprise us, going beyond $1B

 

My theory is that there are two factors:

 

Pre-release buzz influences opening weekend

WOM influences the rest of the run.

 

I don't feel like it has enough buzz in enough countries to have sufficiently high openings that will then propel it to $1B (assuming WOM is really really good).

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My theory is that there are two factors:

 

Pre-release buzz influences opening weekend

WOM influences the rest of the run.

 

I don't feel like it has enough buzz in enough countries to have sufficiently high openings that will then propel it to $1B (assuming WOM is really really good).

Pre-release buzz influences opening weekend: more important for sequels, it also depends by the strenght of marketing.

WOM influences the rest of the run: is very important for originals, especially when it is followed by the "self-promotion" on social media (as happened for the Frozen soundtrack on YouTube)

 

TGD could have a similar prelease buzz of IO but I think it won't have the same WOM. I Predict 300+400=700

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TGD could have a similar prelease buzz of IO but I think it won't have the same WOM. I Predict 300+400=700

 

That number would be quite impressive imo. Although tbh, given inflation, $700M should be the minimum target.

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If this is IO-level good...I see this making more than IO overseas...

Apart from Cars franchise...this is most kid friendly pixar movie in forever

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If this is IO-level good...I see this making more than IO overseas...

Apart from Cars franchise...this is most kid friendly pixar movie in forever

Just for movies not toys, NEMO is more attractive than others Edited by BOOOOB

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I will make a crazy prediction about The Good Dinosaur : it will reach $1B WW :wub: I know it's quite unlikely but I REALLY believe in its potential :wub:

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8 minutes ago, Fullbuster said:

I will make a crazy prediction about The Good Dinosaur : it will reach $1B WW :wub: I know it's quite unlikely but I REALLY believe in its potential :wub:

Play big or go home. I think it has a chance too.

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On 8/11/2015, 6:57:48, Fullbuster said:

I will make a crazy prediction about The Good Dinosaur : it will reach $1B WW :wub: I know it's quite unlikely but I REALLY believe in its potential :wub:

 

I mean if someone had said that for Frozen before its release, I would've called them crazy. As much as I want TGD to reach a billion, I'm still calling you crazy. There is no way this will come close to a billion.

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1 hour ago, quigquag33 said:

 

I mean if someone had said that for Frozen before its release, I would've called them crazy. As much as I want TGD to reach a billion, I'm still calling you crazy. There is no way this will come close to a billion.

I hope he's right though :p

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3 hours ago, quigquag33 said:

 

I mean if someone had said that for Frozen before its release, I would've called them crazy. As much as I want TGD to reach a billion, I'm still calling you crazy. There is no way this will come close to a billion.

Why not? IO got pretty close from it, if TGD can breakthrough in Japan/China (it has more potential in these countries) then it would just needs to have IO numbers elsewhere.

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I can see a fall in some countries compared to inside out, but with better results in japan and china, achieving a total close to inside out (OS, US and WW).

If the film is really exceptional as I believe it is, i would not be surprised if in addition to increase in Japan and China, he also grew up in the same markets compared to inside out, exceeding the billion.

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The film looks kinda childish. Lack of competition should push it quite high though, probably around 750M.

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I hope it grosses more than Minions worldwide. The dinosaur hype train is still alive with Jurassic World.

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Opens on a Thursday in Mexico, as per IMDB, virtually no competition for 3 weeks. I estimate similar numbers as IO: US$9-11M OW and US$32-35M total, depending on the ER.

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so this is opening pratically everywere in the next couple of weeks.   feeling that this may do more than IO OS even if it is not that good

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I doubt it will do sub-$600M, no matter how bad it is. But $600M is the floor and I don't want it anywhere near that.

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do you guys mean sub-600m WW ?? 

NA will most likely d0 250...if it only does 350mn OS with this kid friendly premise..it would be extremely disappointing.

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Hype is non-existent. In NA it could do 200/250, OS it will probably lose 20%+ from Inside Out. And with the bad exchange rate we're experiencing these days, 350M OS (assuming China and Japan deliver modest numbers) wouldn't be bad.

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I think it will beat brave domestic for sure. It will play great with families. Japan is not a gold mine for Pixar original flicks anymore. But I am hoping China can connect better with this than IO. Overall I am with Omni on OS gross. 600m WW wont be so bad for this one.

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