Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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Spider-Man: Homecoming | July 7, 2017 | NOT THE MARVEL-DC THREAD

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Yes, it is. Sony's financing and distributing and has final creative say, but Feige and the other Marvel producers wouldn't be involved if they didn't receive equal credit and billing

 

The press release makes it pretty clear it's co-production. Just read the quotes from the Sony execs

It also on Marvel twiitter page. 

Sony Pictures Entertainment Brings Marvel Studios Into The Amazing World Of Spider-Man http://marvel.com/news/movies/24062/sony_pictures_entertainment_brings_marvel_studios_into_the_amazing_world_of_spider-man @Marvel

 

How do post a twitter post?

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Oh Jandrew, you live a sad life... ;)

 

Huh? It has always happened and will always happen. Make too much, you saturate the market, audiences become uninterested. Marvel has plans through to 2029 (?) but the superhero obsession will be over by then. This happens to every style of film. I guess they've gotta make as much as they can while it lasts though.

 

 

Financial Analysts predicted Iron Man would bomb since the boom would be over by the time it was released in 2008 and that Marvel had missed the boat and was doomed to failure as a film company.  Of course trends and types of movies end and those that don't adapt die out but there are no signs of this happening any time soon.   Westerns and musicals ruled the screen for almost half a century and in numbers that dwarf any amount of Superhero or comic book film and they're still produced after their bust 40 years later but in smaller numbers.

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Hope this means Spider-Woman can be used in the Captain Marvel franchise  :wub:

 

That would be the undisputed best thing to come out of this

Really though. Captain Marvel, Spider Woman, She Hulk. I want them. Add in Gamora and Black Widow, and mannnn. She Hulk is probably the most I'd love to see though. I thought she was a bland character, but I read her bios and shes not ehat I expected. Really need to see these girls in action.

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Valid point though. The superhero movies will have to get bigger and bigger, Batman and Superman, Captain America and Iron Man and Spiderman, Avengers, Justice League. With basically every movie having a value added element or teams. The solo movies will be the ones that suffer moving forward.

 

Yeah, but as long as they can make them as varied and as interesting as The MCU movies have been this gen, I'm sure a lot of moviegoers will still show up. 

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It'll be interesting if Fox or WB makes adjustments to their film slates with this news. 2017 is looking like another solid year.

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Hope this means Spider-Woman can be used in the Captain Marvel franchise  :wub:

 

That would be the undisputed best thing to come out of this

One of Marvel's ultimate slash couples.

This must happen.

Man, cocho would die of happiness over it.

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I never thought I'd see the day... I guess that sinister six bullshit is dead now, right?

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Financial Analysts predicted Iron Man predicted the boom would be over by the time it was release in 2008 and that Marvel had missed the boat an was doomed to failure.  Of course trends and types of movies end and those that don't adapt die out but there are no signs of this happening any time soon.   Westerns and musicals ruled the screen for almost half a century and in numbers that dwarf any amount of Superhero or comic book film and they're still produced after their bust 40 years later but in smaller numbers.

Superhero movies will still be around in 10 years but I doubt we be seeing 7 major tentpole superhero films. I am guessing we will most likely see 2 a year. 

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What a shame that the Aunt May movie was cancelled for this.

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I never thought I'd see the day... I guess that sinister six bullshit is dead now, right?

It will be delayed until 2021 when Marvel makes it happen. 

 

 

What a shame that the Aunt May movie was cancelled for this.

 

Marvel Studio will make sure this happens. They must make sure this happens. 

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Ah, why did they have to push back all the other films??  I'm definitely excited about a new Spidey film, but not as much as Thor and everybody else.  But perhaps when the movie comes out, I'll change my mind.

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As for the request to archive this thread, trying to see if the On The Lot thread that was created for the next Spider-Man movie may need to be merged with this thread before I do it.

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Marvel Studio will make sure this happens. They must make sure this happens. 

 

There's no way they'd let that masterpiece be cancelled. 

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Superhero movies will still be around in 10 years but I doubt we be seeing 7 major tentpole superhero films. I am guessing we will most likely see 2 a year. 

 

I doubt it.  Maybe down to 3-4 but not 2 since they are spread over 4 different studios.  The MCU makes comic films - that's what they do - they will not stop doing that.  WB has Batman who will forever be reinvented even if the DCU fails.  Fox has to produced films or their licenses will expire, and even with this deal Sony most likely does as well.

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As for the request to archive this thread, trying to see if the On The Lot thread that was created for the next Spider-Man movie may need to be merged with this thread

Give JAndrew his victory. He created this fair and square.

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As for the request to archive this thread, trying to see if the On The Lot thread that was created for the next Spider-Man movie may need to be merged with this thread

I didnt see one as this was just announced. Just Amazing Spiderman 3 and thats dead. If its merged, will I still get to keep this thread since this is the one thats actually happening?

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But what about Avi Arad? What will become of him? Those are the important questions of the day.

 

Deadline says he's been relegated to an "executive producer" position:

 

Matt Tolmach and Avi Arad, who produced the most recent Amazing Spider-Man films directed by Marc Webb, will become exec producers going forward. Arad has a long history with Marvel, helping rescue the company from bankruptcy, among other things; Tolmach spearheaded the original Sam Raimi-directed trilogy as SPE production co-president, before joining Arad when he transitioned into producing.

 

http://deadline.com/2015/02/spider-man-marvel-kevin-feige-amy-pascal-producers-1201370228/

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What a shame that the Aunt May movie was cancelled for this.

Maybe aunt may will appear in agent carter haha
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Great news. With the shuffling around by Marvel, no question Spidey will be a key player in the Infinity Wars.  :wub:

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