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Noctis

Should China be counted separately from the rest of the OS markets?

Should China's grosses be separated from Overseas' gross?  

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  1. 1. Should China's grosses be separated from Overseas' gross?

    • Yes, China should be separate from Overseas Grosses, starting as soon as possible
      14
    • Yes, China should be separate from Overseas Grosses, but after ___ amount of time
      3
    • Yes, China should be separate from Overseas Grosses, but after a movie grosses ___ amount of money
      1
    • No, China should not be separate from Overseas Grosses
      17


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CoolioD1    57,276

I don't know about much about os numbers. probably not even 10% when you count them all up. (which is still a lot but eh)

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Chewy    50,503

All these countries should be counted separately, the whole dom/os split seems outdated

 

We got people talking about "Worldwide Opening Weekends!" like that means something when movies open in different territories

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Poseidon    1,245

You act like it's written law, it has to be like it is.

 

We discuss BO from the perspective of the US and the US-press, so even with China being big, why should an american BO-Site like BOM.com or BO.com look at it from Chinas perspective?

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PDC1987    2,826

No, and the mere notion is completely retarded. China is not part of the domestic box office. It's overseas, it's international. End.

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water    2,555

No, and the mere notion is completely retarded. China is not part of the domestic box office. It's overseas, it's international. End.

 

don't use the r word.

 

idk it's not that hard to say like... my prediction for sw7 is 160/670/300/650/1.620b i'm sure you can figure it out

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grey ghost    14,744

Nah, it would make overseas totals confusing since lots of movies are never released in China.

When someone writes DOM/OS you won't know if they're using the old system or if they're leaving out China.

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narniadis    3,580

Only if China does away with the quota and releases EVERY release that the US does including the limited releases. Since this won't happen it's a moot point and "evens the field by keeping all non US grosses to one figure.

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redfirebird2008    18,247

You act like it's written law, it has to be like it is.

 

We discuss BO from the perspective of the US and the US-press, so even with China being big, why should an american BO-Site like BOM.com or BO.com look at it from Chinas perspective?

 

Speaking of that, I bet BOM.com and this forum are both censored in China. 

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CoolioD1    57,276

there's a lot of members here that are in china. Unless it's super easy to get past those blocks idk anything about it.

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Noctis    21,520

No, and the mere notion is completely retarded. China is not part of the domestic box office. It's overseas, it's international. End.

 

EDIT: Ok, he isn't, but still! Fucking hate when you call someone else's opinion completely retarded.

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DamienRoc    10,614

A project I've started was looking at the worldwide breakdown of the various billion dollar properties. I think it's more useful to look at things as a part of the whole rather than singling out any specific markets. That way we can see on a case by case basis what the outliers are.

 

While China has become a big market, it's not something that will apply across the board.

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W4MW3epzFIgy0cVhNW3l7t0eT77w5i-nRy2v6NJDigA/edit?usp=sharing

 

(Apologies for anything that's unclear. I'm not super skilled at spreadsheets.)

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DamienRoc    10,614

that's a really great chart, you should add furious 7!

 

Once the run is finished, yeah. At least assuming BOM has accurate market information.

 

I do want to populate it down to include more films, although some of them are sorely lacking on what each given market earned. The Lion King, in particular, is bad. And it's currently the highest grossing non-billion movie, which is why I stopped where I did at the time.

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eddyxx    4,572

 

i think we should.

 

also "dom" charts should be expanded to include most money made in a single market

 

so 2014 would be

  1. American Sniper - 348m DOM
  2. Mockingjay Part 1 - 337m DOM
  3. Guardians of the Galaxy - 333m DOM
  4. Transformers 4 - 320m CHINA
  5. Captain America 2 - 260m DOM

2015 currently

  1. Furious 7 - 307m DOM
  2. Furious 7 - 298m CHINA
  3. Cinderella - 188m DOM
  4. 50 Shades of Grey - 166m DOM
  5. Spongebob Movie - 162m DOM

 

 

That is ridiculous.

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