Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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grim22

Meg | Aug 10 2018 | WB-China co-production | IMAX 3D | Jon Turteltaub directing. Jason Statham fights a shark. Li Bingbing replaces Fan Bingbing.

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I think cheese is all but unavoidable, whether they intend it or not.

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3 hours ago, Tele Came Back said:

I think cheese is all but unavoidable, whether they intend it or not.

 

But that's the key.  There's cheese in Jurassic World as well.  But it still maintained the same kind of atmosphere as the original, regardless of how much you hate it Tele. :)

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1 hour ago, baumer said:

 

But that's the key.  There's cheese in Jurassic World as well.  But it still maintained the same kind of atmosphere as the original, regardless of how much you hate it Tele. :)

 

Using JW is not a great example to convince me. :P 

 

But talking about box-office possibilities, JW leaned heavily on nostalgia for that specific series (above and beyond general interest in dinosaurs). MEG can't rely on that, and I think no matter how well done it is, it's going to suffer from the fact we've seen these sorts of movies a billion times. Inevitably there's gonna be a fair amount of time where we just have to sit through the story beats that we all know are coming.

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41 minutes ago, Tele Came Back said:

 

Using JW is not a great example to convince me. :P 

 

But talking about box-office possibilities, JW leaned heavily on nostalgia for that specific series (above and beyond general interest in dinosaurs). MEG can't rely on that, and I think no matter how well done it is, it's going to suffer from the fact we've seen these sorts of movies a billion times. Inevitably there's gonna be a fair amount of time where we just have to sit through the story beats that we all know are coming.

 

I don't think this movie is gonna be big.  It feels like a B list movie given a bigger push cause...something soething Jurassic World Furious movies ...that's the pitch, and The Rock was busy.

 

And this bothers me none.  I don't need Meg 2.  Let's just Turteltaub can deliver on the OTT stupidity and giant monster Shark v Statham I want from this movie.  Turteltaub, don't try too hard.  Just go with it.  

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If theres not an play on "Your gonna need a bigger boat" Ill be upset.

 

Id love to see Statham say "Smile you son of bitch" too

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25 minutes ago, Jay Hollywood said:

If theres not an play on "Your gonna need a bigger boat" Ill be upset.

 

Id love to see Statham say "Smile you son of bitch" too

 

For some reason...if Statham just quotes Jaws in his signature voice than makes his face...I'll be happy.

 

Of course I'm the guy who wants Statham to be the Genie in Disney's Aladdin remake.

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I'd see Statham in anything so maybe that is part of my enthusiasm as well.

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On ‎4‎/‎19‎/‎2017 at 9:24 PM, baumer said:

 

But that's the key.  There's cheese in Jurassic World as well.  But it still maintained the same kind of atmosphere as the original, regardless of how much you hate it Tele. :)

 

http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/207115/meg-adaptation-edge-seat-scary/

 

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Meg Adaptation to Be Edge-of-Your-Seat Scary

Author Steve Alten recently sat down with our buddies over at iHorror to discuss what to expect from the upcoming big screen adaptation of Meg. Gotta say, we love what we hear so far.

 

Filming completed in New Zealand and China in mid-December,” Alten tells the site. “I have not seen any footage other than what has been posted on Instagram, but I understand everything looks amazing. It will be edge-of-your-seat scary. First and foremost, this is not just a shark; it’s a Megalodon, the most fearsome predator in the history of the planet… which just happens to be a prehistoric version of a 70-foot Great White.”

 

Warner Bros. Pictures and China’s acclaimed science-fiction film acclaimed science-fiction film Gravity Pictures said that the film will release during the 2018 Chinese New Year period in China. The week-long annual holidays kick off on Friday, February 16, in 2018, some two weeks ahead of the film’s previously announced March 2, 2018, outing in the rest of the world.

Jon Turteltaub (the National Treasure movies, Last Vegas) directs.

 

Meg is produced by di Bonaventura Pictures, Apelles Entertainment, Maeday Productions, Inc., and Flagship Entertainment, in association with Beijing Digital Impression (BDI) Film. Flagship is the Hong Kong-domiciled, Beijing-based production joint venture among Warner, China Media Capital, and Hong Kong’s Television Broadcasts (TVB.) acclaimed science-fiction film acclaimed science-fiction film Gravity Pictures is a China Media Capital subsidiary.

The story involves a deep-sea submersible attacked by a massive creature, previously thought to be extinct. The vessel lies disabled at the bottom of the deepest trench in the Pacific with its crew trapped inside. The screenplay is written by Dean Georgaris along with Jon Hoeber and Erich Hoeber, based on the New York Times best-selling book by Steve Alten.

 

In addition to Jason Statham and Li Bingbing, the cast includes Winston Chao,  Masi Oka, New Zealander Cliff Curtis, Rainn Wilson,  Ruby Rose,  Page Kennedy, Jessica McNamee,  Olafur Darri Olafsson,  Robert Taylor,  and Sophia Shuya Cai.

More as we get it!

 

 
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On 4/20/2017 at 2:41 AM, Jay Hollywood said:

If theres not an play on "Your gonna need a bigger boat" Ill be upset.

 

They already just did it in Fast 8 (at least in the trailer, don't know if it made the movie), there is a "We're gonna need a bigger truck" when the submarine get out of the water.

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On 4/19/2017 at 9:58 PM, John Marston said:

wonder if this will be R rated

 

Likely not, it's likely going the PG-13 route. Probably the reason why Eli Roth (who was supposed to direct it) left.

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9 minutes ago, Yandereprime101189 said:

 

Likely not, it's likely going the PG-13 route. Probably the reason why Eli Roth (who was supposed to direct it) left.

 

Yeah, but you know how it is nowadays when it comes to a films ratings.. PG-13 Theatrically and on Blu-Ray/DVD, you get the "Unrated Edition" or "Ultimate Cut" with more grit.. I'm pretty sure a PG-13 Rating with this will more than push the boundaries, especially when you see JURASSIC WORLD was PG-13 and was the most violent JURASSIC PARK movie yet.. Some of the deaths in that movie were downright gruesome for PG-13.. More than likely, Eli Roth wanted to make this a straight up horror movie when it's more of horror/adventure/thriller combined...  Here.. Now I thoroughly enjoyed this when it aired on SHARK WEEK back in 2013 and granted, Discovery Channel did a hell of a job convincing people this damn thing still existed and as a result, Discovery Channel got into a little hot water over it for misleading viewers, even though they deny it still, but nevertheless this was thoroughly entertaining and convincing at the time... This was in fact a real shark that lived at one time and still could at the deepest part of the Ocean, but who knows??

 

 

 

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It sounds more like a PG-13 kind of movie anyway. I think they could easily go the Kong: Skull Island route and push for hard PG-13 content (brutality and violence without going overboard).

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PG-13 is fine, The Shallows was PG-13 and it was terrific.

 

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3 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

 

Why didn't it make it's February release target? :popcorn:

 

I don't know, but to me, this is more of a Summer movie than something for Feb or March.. Clearly, they're taking their time on this to ensure it's done right... I only pray the ending of the Novel isn't used for the movie adaptation.. I would frown greatly.. :bourne:

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The ending in which the main character rams a sub down the shark's gullet, crawls out and cuts out its heart? If it was in the film, it would be a big talk about movie after people have seen it. As in, Oh My God, did you see that?!?!?

 

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The ending in which the main character rams a sub down the shark's gullet, crawls out and cuts out its heart? If it was in the film, it would be a big talk about movie after people have seen it. As in, Oh My God, did you see that?!?!?

 

That. Sounds. Fucking. Amazing

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It would be a shame if they didn't use it. It is bonkers no doubt, but it's one of the reasons why I loved the book when I first read it. It's a more unique idea than blowing up the shark.

 

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Best yet he does it with a shark tooth, I believe.

 

Plus, it's Jason Statham, SO WHY NOT USE IT

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7 hours ago, THE PHENOMENAL BKB said:

 

I don't know, but to me, this is more of a Summer movie than something for Feb or March.. Clearly, they're taking their time on this to ensure it's done right... I only pray the ending of the Novel isn't used for the movie adaptation.. I would frown greatly.. :bourne:

 

Seems like they wanted to make Chinese New Year though. 

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