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This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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KFP3 over $500m

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Club reasons:

- With a consitenting growing market, expect a huge breakout of this. The market should be very strong by the beginning of 2016.

- CNY release date will definitely help this do massive amounts of money.

- KFP2 made almost $100m in China alone in 2011, so its undoubtful it do over 5x than that.

- KFP3 is being produced by Oriental Dreamworks, which can really help it.

- If this movie is good, this club could happen.

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Impossible...but I'm all for it. I would love to see the impossible thing happen.

Let's see how Minions will fare out in China.

I agree with all points you made about this club.

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Wow I didn't know KFP2 made 92m in China. That's a good number in China even now!

But even 5x that is 460m.

Out, 300-350m. (I might update the range based on Minions)

Edited by a2k

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Wow I didn't know KFP2 made 92m in China. That's a good number in China even now!

But even 5x that is 460m. (You said 5x is 500m but you rounded 92m to 100m :))

Out, 300-350m. (I might update the range based on Minions)

Same here. Agree with you a2k.

If Minions makes 170-200 million in China (I don't think it will do more than 100 -120 unless it 's a huge hit much bigger than what we think) then yes KFP will cross 250 million.

Edited by MinaTakla

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Wow I didn't know KFP2 made 92m in China. That's a good number in China even now!

But even 5x that is 460m. (You said 5x is 500m but you rounded 92m to 100m :))

Out, 300-350m. (I might update the range based on Minions)

Well, I said over 5x, not just 5x

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Same here. Agree with you a2k.

If Minions makes 170-200 million in China (I don't think it will do more than 100 -120 unless it 's a huge hit much bigger than what we think) then yes KFP will cross 250 million.

Not to mention market has been growing consistently.

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Impossible...but I'm all for it. I would love to see the impossible thing happen.

Let's see how Minions will fare out in China.

I agree with all points you made about this club.

Minions could possibly do close to $200m.

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Some people in official Chinese thread have already said some months ago that this has chances of $100m OD if the release date is good enough. This club is not so crazy as it seems. I play hard. I am In

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Why is this film so revered in China?

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It's current release date is not good at all, 10 days before Chinese new year, people are too busy to go to the movies around that time.

And after ten days, local blockbusters opening on NYD will kill its legs.

Edited by Kylin Zhang

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It's current release date is not good at all, 10 days before Chinese new year, people are too busy to go to the movies around that time.

And after ten days, local blockbusters opening on NYD will kill its legs.

So what is your predict?

Didnt even realized it, but keep in mind they are different audience.

No animated competition though.

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It's current release date is not good at all, 10 days before Chinese new year, people are too busy to go to the movies around that time.

And after ten days, local blockbusters opening on NYD will kill its legs.

Ugh.....I should have known.

So you're saying that KFP3 will not do anywhere good at all, due to the bad release date? :(

Are there any other ways it could do well? It's not doomed, right?

Edited by MrFanaticGuy34

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It's current release date is not good at all, 10 days before Chinese new year, people are too busy to go to the movies around that time.

And after ten days, local blockbusters opening on NYD will kill its legs.

Why the shitty release date for KFP3?

I thought the movie was a coproduction with China?

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Why the shitty release date for KFP3?

I thought the movie was a coproduction with China?

30% of the movie will be produced by Oriental Dreamworks, it is counted as a local movie in China.

ODW choose the release date by their own, maybe they'll change the date later.

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Why is this film so revered in China?

 

kung fu.

 

i wonder if china has made kung fu animations inspired by kfp. if so, then bo prospects of this might reduce.

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300-350 depending upon the competition...

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If the release date goes much better, this club could happen I think.

And do not forget with today's China market, KFP2 could have made about $300m. So its hard to imagine KFP3 does less than $400m.

Still, the markets will rapidly continue to grow in 2016, acting as an advantage.

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KFP2 was a big hit at 92m in 2011. But animation has just surpassed 100m finally w TMK while live action has had a number of 200m+ films and now three $300m films.

I don't see how it surpasses 350m. Was the first one an anomaly? or is there something special about it?

Bo is up 250% since then. It would put KFP2 at 320m when matching market growth and doubling the current record. That a feat in itself

With a crowded schedule and many movies out to share about $800-900m in BO revenue expected for those 30 days, I don't see how it does 500m

Im out,

I say under 320m

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