Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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kayumanggi

Wednesday Numbers | 13.8 M THG: MOCKINGJAY II | 9.8 M THE GOOD DINOSAUR | 6.0 M CREED

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"CREED! CREED! CREED!". I'm so excited to see Creed absolutely breakout this weekend. Reviews are great, but more importantly WOM from the GA is going to be insane. TGD is also gonna do great, will be interesting to see how it does comapred to Frozen.

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Weird. Victor Frankenstein doesn't even have a British Colombia rating yet...

 

Kinda upset that it and Good Dinosaur don't open here until Friday, but at least I'm seeing Creed tonight!

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Thinking $15-16m for TGD and $13-14m for Creed today.

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how is victor frankenstein not some "fuck you, it's january" dump? that's like scheduling 101.

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1 minute ago, DAJK said:

Weird. Victor Frankenstein doesn't even have a British Colombia rating yet...

 

Kinda upset that it and Good Dinosaur don't open here until Friday, but at least I'm seeing Creed tonight!

Well that way you don't have to choose between the movies :lol:

 

I was personally wondering if I go to a movie today for $5 Wednesday since I don't have school, should I go see Creed or The Good Dino. 

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14 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:

1.4 M for BIG HERO 6 (Thursday previews)

That had the Marvel tie in and a better preview date (Thursday vs Tuesday) 

 

With a Wednesday opening, Good Dinosaur should do somewhere between $80-100 million 

 

The real story is Creed... 

8 minutes ago, Jayhawk said:

"CREED! CREED! CREED!". I'm so excited to see Creed absolutely breakout this weekend. Reviews are great, but more importantly WOM from the GA is going to be insane. TGD is also gonna do great, will be interesting to see how it does comapred to Frozen.

How big will Creed be this weekend? Its previews are bigger than any other major opener over Thanksgiving (Frozen, GD, Muppets, Tangled, Enchanted, etc)

 

There's no real precedent for a major adult-skewing film opening over Thanksgiving, either. 

 

I don't think it'll be that frontloaded due to the kind of film and it's excellent reviews, but $55 million+ for the 5-day would be amazing :o would Blind Side's $57 million 5-day reasonable to expect? 

 

 

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Quick reminder that The Martian was going to release today until Fox smartened up.

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1 minute ago, WrathOfHan said:

Quick reminder that The Martian was going to release today until Fox smartened up.

 

It would definitely have done good business in this slot as well. Maybe a 75M+ 5 day and an O/U 200M finish. It is a good crowd pleasing movie, and those can survive at any time during the year. The only difference it would have made is that October would have been worse than it turned out being but all October movies would have earned just a bit more since the defacto movie of choice was not present.

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2 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

Quick reminder that The Martian was going to release today until Fox smartened up.

Very smart. Creed, MJ2 and Good Dinosaur should combine for $150 million+ over the 5 day plus holdovers. 

 

There'd be no real room for The Martian. October 2nd was perfect with everything except Bridge of Spies and Goosebumps bombing hard 

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Creed probably would've been hurt the most if The Martian had stayed in the original spot

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If VF wasn't releasing this weekend it would be damn near perfect. Big adult release, big family release, and big holdover tent pole. Although, I guess we need a flop in there to encompass the full range of BO.

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Also getting an early start was 20th Century Fox’s Victor Frankenstein which grossed $175M from 2,100 locations.

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1 minute ago, RichWS said:

Also getting an early start was 20th Century Fox’s Victor Frankenstein which grossed $175M from 2,100 locations.

Down goes Star Wars!!!

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3 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

Creed probably would've been hurt the most if The Martian had stayed in the original spot

 

Not sure about that. The Martian majorly benefited from WOM build-up and lack of competition in the succeeding weeks. Creed OTOH has some hype going for it from the start. If the two were to go head to head, and that too just 3 weeks before You Know What, TM would have suffered.

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2 minutes ago, RichWS said:

Also getting an early start was 20th Century Fox’s Victor Frankenstein which grossed $175M from 2,100 locations.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, RichWS said:

Also getting an early start was 20th Century Fox’s Victor Frankenstein which grossed $175M from 2,100 locations.

 

$2 billion OW, here we come!

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Speaking of Jeremy he AWESOMETACULERED Creed

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That Creed number really pleases me.  

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