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This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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On 5/7/2017 at 7:55 AM, Jake Gittes said:

 

Great observation. I'm still baffled that this lost best editing to Hacksaw fucking Ridge of all films. 

Hacksaw shouldn't have even been nominated is the weirdest thing; even looking at other films nominated for an Oscars, it's clear that Manchester, Jackie, and O.J. are all better choices for that last editing slot for the nominees (the other four deserved to be there IMO)

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1 hour ago, Blankments said:

Hacksaw shouldn't have even been nominated is the weirdest thing; even looking at other films nominated for an Oscars, it's clear that Manchester, Jackie, and O.J. are all better choices for that last editing slot for the nominees (the other four deserved to be there IMO)

 

I think LLL and Hell or High Water are the only ones that even deserved nominations. At least they didn't put Lion there I guess.

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HACKSAW had fantastic editing, and they did a smart job of pushing (to the guilds) how John Gilbert helped save the battle scenes and made them sing (working from sparse footage shot under a tough schedule with a minimal number of extras).

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1 hour ago, Tele Came Back said:

HACKSAW had fantastic editing, and they did a smart job of pushing (to the guilds) how John Gilbert helped save the battle scenes and made them sing (working from sparse footage shot under a tough schedule with a minimal number of extras).

it had good editing, but imo of the noms this or ARRIVAL were clearly better picks

 

(Manchester and O.J. are probs my personal picks for editing last year tho)

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12 minutes ago, Blankments said:

it had good editing, but imo of the noms this or ARRIVAL were clearly better picks

 

(Manchester and O.J. are probs my personal picks for editing last year tho)

 

IMO, all this does is illustrate how much we basically just prefer movies we like to win. (And, to be fair, this is largely the Academy's method as well). 

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17 minutes ago, Tele Came Back said:

 

IMO, all this does is illustrate how much we basically just prefer movies we like to win. (And, to be fair, this is largely the Academy's method as well). 

 

And their best bias of them all (or least worst bias), making movie they like in category they do not always understand much like sound editing, mixing, sfx, etc.... is maybe not ideal but much better than any other bias (dislike/like the person and so on)

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2 hours ago, Tele Came Back said:

 

IMO, all this does is illustrate how much we basically just prefer movies we like to win. (And, to be fair, this is largely the Academy's method as well). 

I like Hacksaw Ridge tho (and to illustrate that more, I love Hell or High Water but I don't think it should've been nominated for Editing.)

 

(Also I'm aware Jackie and O.J. had no shot lol)

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6 hours ago, Barnack said:

 

And their best bias of them all (or least worst bias), making movie they like in category they do not always understand much like sound editing, mixing, sfx, etc.... is maybe not ideal but much better than any other bias (dislike/like the person and so on)

 

 

Thought you might find this interesting, Barnack. 

 

To qualify as an official U.S.-China co-production, a film’s story must contain considerable Chinese cultural elements and Chinese professionals must make up a large portion of the cast and crew; but in return, the U.S. partner is permitted to take 43 percent of the movie’s Chinese box-office revenue, instead of the usual 25 percent U.S. studio imports receive under China’s quota system.   http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/great-wall-can-china-hollywood-productions-be-saved-1005240

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