JonathanLB Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, Lordmandeep said: Interesting how legs work RO opened below batman vs superman but will out gross it by Monday or Tuesday next week. How is that even possible? I don't get how it's possible for a movie not to double its OW gross. I'm headed to BoxOfficeMojo lol. I need to read the BOT thread on that too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) 18 minutes ago, SteveJaros said: Just intuitively, $18m seems like a very solid number for Monday, and bodes well for R1's chances to surpass $400m DOM and challenge CA and Dory for DOM film of the year. I think I start to get your ~ prediction style: dry speaking version of the very conservative, or? Like the bare minimum to be expected, never hinting at what the hoped for amount actually might be? Like CA CW had a bigger OW, and beside good WOM less good legs than expected? To stay more ... conservative. Or so. (edit: not to count on rules like typical for Holiday too early) Rank Movie Title (click to view) Studio Filter 25th Frame 26 Aries 5&2 A23 A24 AAE Abr. AD ADC AEF AF Air Bud Alc Ampl. Anch. AR ArcEnt Argentum Argo. Artma BBC BG Bow and Arro Boxcar BSC BSM BST BV BWP Cartuna CAVU CineGalaxy Cinestaan CJ CL Cleopatra Cohen Col. Collective E Crnth CZ Dalton Distrib. Dreamwest Drft. DWOES EC EF Electric Elev. EOne EpicPics Eros ESX FB FCW FIP FM Focus Forewarned Fox FoxS FR Free FRun FUN Gaatri Gathr Gemelli GK Gold. Grasshopper Grav. GVN Ham Hann. HTR Icar. ICir IFC Imax INDEP Indic. Invincible Jampa Jan. JBG JSenko KL Leis. LG/S LGF LGP Libre LifeWay Lightyear Linn Little Flowe Long Shot Magn. MarVista Masters Mats. MBox MDL Men. Mirror Mon Mont. Moore MR MS NET Orch. ORF Orion Osci. Pala. Par. PFR PM&E PNT Purd. QF RAtt. Red Dirt Rel. Rela. Relbig. Rialto RM RME Saban Scre. SDS SGem Shad. Shout! Shrts. SkyI SM Sony SPC Strand STX TFA TFC Trans TriCoast TriS TUG UEP Uncork'd Uni. UTMW UTV Vanish Vanishing VE Vita. VPD W/Dim. WB WB (NL) Wein. WGUSA Wonder WOW WRA Yash YFG Zee Zeit. ALL Total Gross /Theaters Opening / Theaters Open Close 1 Finding Dory BV $486,295,561 4,305 $135,060,273 4,305 6/17 12/8 2 Captain America: Civil War BV $408,084,349 4,226 $179,139,142 4,226 5/6 9/22 Edited December 20, 2016 by terrestrial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Forgive my ignorance but why Tuesdays? How about discount Wednesdays? I mean, it's probably the slowest day of the week as far as moviegoing is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanLB Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 *shrug* no idea. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Very good number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 1 hour ago, SteveJaros said: Just intuitively, $18m seems like a very solid number for Monday, and bodes well for R1's chances to surpass $400m DOM and challenge CA and Dory for DOM film of the year. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fast and the Furiosa Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 That's a question I've been wo 55 minutes ago, kayumanggi said: Forgive my ignorance but why Tuesdays? How about discount Wednesdays? I mean, it's probably the slowest day of the week as far as moviegoing is concerned. That's a question I've been wondering for years lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 1 hour ago, kayumanggi said: Forgive my ignorance but why Tuesdays? How about discount Wednesdays? I mean, it's probably the slowest day of the week as far as moviegoing is concerned. Perhaps because a couple of years ago there was a trend with some movies opening on Wednesday? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Or maybe there is actually no reason for it to be a Tuesday. Maybe someone just decided to have discounted tickets on a Tuesday for absolutely no particular reason. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyGossamer Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 1 hour ago, SteveJaros said: Just intuitively, $18m seems like a very solid number for Monday, and bodes well for R1's chances to surpass $400m DOM and challenge CA and Dory for DOM film of the year. It's definitely passing Civil War's sub-$410M DOM. Dory won't be as easy but it's essentially a lock to pass it as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fast and the Furiosa Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, Christmas Baumer said: Or maybe there is actually no reason for it to be a Tuesday. Maybe someone just decided to have discounted tickets on a Tuesday for absolutely no particular reason. That wouldn't really make sense from an economic perspective, but hey maybe someone started a weird trend 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 1 hour ago, kayumanggi said: Forgive my ignorance but why Tuesdays? How about discount Wednesdays? I mean, it's probably the slowest day of the week as far as moviegoing is concerned. In the UK dominoes has a two pizzas for the price of one deal on Tuesdays, hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJaros Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 1 hour ago, terrestrial said: I think I start to get your ~ prediction style: dry speaking version of the very conservative, or? Like the bare minimum to be expected, never hinting at what the hoped for amount actually might be? Like CA CW had a bigger OW, and beside good WOM less good legs than expected? To stay more ... conservative. Or so. (edit: not to count on rules like typical for Holiday too early) Rank Movie Title (click to view) Studio Filter 25th Frame 26 Aries 5&2 A23 A24 AAE Abr. AD ADC AEF AF Air Bud Alc Ampl. Anch. AR ArcEnt Argentum Argo. Artma BBC BG Bow and Arro Boxcar BSC BSM BST BV BWP Cartuna CAVU CineGalaxy Cinestaan CJ CL Cleopatra Cohen Col. Collective E Crnth CZ Dalton Distrib. Dreamwest Drft. DWOES EC EF Electric Elev. EOne EpicPics Eros ESX FB FCW FIP FM Focus Forewarned Fox FoxS FR Free FRun FUN Gaatri Gathr Gemelli GK Gold. Grasshopper Grav. GVN Ham Hann. HTR Icar. ICir IFC Imax INDEP Indic. Invincible Jampa Jan. JBG JSenko KL Leis. LG/S LGF LGP Libre LifeWay Lightyear Linn Little Flowe Long Shot Magn. MarVista Masters Mats. MBox MDL Men. Mirror Mon Mont. Moore MR MS NET Orch. ORF Orion Osci. Pala. Par. PFR PM&E PNT Purd. QF RAtt. Red Dirt Rel. Rela. Relbig. Rialto RM RME Saban Scre. SDS SGem Shad. Shout! Shrts. SkyI SM Sony SPC Strand STX TFA TFC Trans TriCoast TriS TUG UEP Uncork'd Uni. UTMW UTV Vanish Vanishing VE Vita. VPD W/Dim. WB WB (NL) Wein. WGUSA Wonder WOW WRA Yash YFG Zee Zeit. ALL Total Gross /Theaters Opening / Theaters Open Close 1 Finding Dory BV $486,295,561 4,305 $135,060,273 4,305 6/17 12/8 2 Captain America: Civil War BV $408,084,349 4,226 $179,139,142 4,226 5/6 9/22 I appreciate the insights, but I'm not sure I'm being ultra-conservative here. I mean, if the issue is "will R1 reach $420m DOM?", two other action movies, BVS and CA, also opened at over $150m this year, and neither reached that mark. So being in doubt about whether R1 will doesn't seem too far-right to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fast and the Furiosa Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SteveJaros said: I appreciate the insights, but I'm not sure I'm being ultra-conservative here. I mean, if the issue is "will R1 reach $420m DOM?", two other action movies, BVS and CA, also opened at over $150m this year, and neither reached that mark. So being in doubt about whether R1 will doesn't seem too far-right to me. R1 will have ridiculous weekdays for a couple weeks. Those other two films did not Edited December 20, 2016 by The Fast and the Furiosa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agafin Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 1 hour ago, kayumanggi said: Forgive my ignorance but why Tuesdays? How about discount Wednesdays? I mean, it's probably the slowest day of the week as far as moviegoing is concerned. Well, that seems like a good reason to me. Think about it, why would you discount tickets on a day like Saturday when you know fully well that people will go watch movies anyway? Discounting tickets on a weak day means that you'll attract an audience that wouldn't have been there anyway and even though tickets are very cheap, having 10 people buy tickets at 5 bucks is better than 3 people buying at 10 bucks a piece. And of course, you have way more concessions to sell, and theater owners generally prioritize concessions over actual ticket sales anyway. By contrast, if you discount tickets on a saturday, you are probably going to have a few more people coming but a net loss in cash overall (since the theaters have a max capacity). I think that's also why matinée tickets usually have discounts while evenings dont. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb007 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Discount Tuesdays are meant to accomplish a few things. 1. Get regular moviegoers to watch movies at greater frequency. 2. Get tightwad auds to give some movies a shot 3. Get infrequent/rare moviegoers to watch movies The idea is to get the audiences into the habit of watching movies thereby increasing the audience pool. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 155 18 million -52% 18.9 million + 5% 15 million -20% 16.5 million +10% 23 million +40% 14 million -40% 29.5 million +110% 31 million + 6% 20.5 million -33% Total after 27th: 341 million I think that is rather reasonable no? It would be around 440 million by Jan 2nd... ehhhh? Did I do something wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyGossamer Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) I swear @SteveJaros is trolling us often here. He says he's followed the box office for nearly twenty years yet fails to acknowledge how distinctly different weekdays play over the holiday season v. early April and early May? Even when given evidence from previous years, namely 2011 when Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve last fell on a Saturday, or multipliers during the holiday season in general over the past 5 to 10 years, he seems to actively ignore said information. It's strange. The anomaly would be sub-$425M DOM for R1. It would play opposite of the holiday season box office trends charted over the past 10+ years. Edited December 20, 2016 by JohnnyGossamer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 24 minutes ago, Christmas Baumer said: Or maybe there is actually no reason for it to be a Tuesday. Maybe someone just decided to have discounted tickets on a Tuesday for absolutely no particular reason. “That day, for no particular reason, I decided to go for a little run." 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladels Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 RO needs to be over $420M by Dec 31st for Disney to reach $3B DOM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
