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1 minute ago, DAR said:

Even I had voted I'm not sure I would have put on this list.  It's absolutely terrific but I still think of it as a tv program even though it had a qualifying run.

yeah, it's tv i know people have moaned about the movie love but eh who cares it rules. if i could've found a loophole for it i'd have voted for the ryan murphy show too.

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2 minutes ago, grim22 said:

#22 (Tie)

 

 

At number 22 (i.e. 22 and 23), we have a tie. And what a fitting tie it is. The 2 movies also caused the blood pressure of the mods on this board to rise thanks to the unending fan wars we saw. Sometimes lists come up better than you can even plan them. The best thing is that I don’t even need to write 2 separate descriptions for the movies. So here goes:

 

 

A billionaire playboy superhero who wears an armored suit takes offense at the actions of a different superhero who wears Red and Blue and then they fight.

 

 

 

 

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Captain America: Civil War

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User Reviews:

 

 

Saw this last night and enjoyed it very much. I would call it the best MCU movie so far. It's not as fun as IM1 or the first Avengers film, but it is a better movie overall. And unlike The Winter Soldier, this new film does not fall apart during the third act. It keeps the scale smaller during the big conflict at the end and it's not just a big CGI fest like TWS ended up. I really loved Spider-Man and Ant-Man. They added some much-needed humor after everything leading up their appearance was so serious. The Empire Strikes Back reference was awesome. The conflict between Tony and Steve was very well done. I'm curious to see where they take it from here.

 

 

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One of my favorites superheroes movies ever (at the moment only behind TDK and Winter Soldier)

 

 

Loved the characters development and the intelligent part of the movie not just nonsense action like Iron Man 3 and Ultron 

 

 

For me everything was perfect the only weakness I thing was the use of Zemo (he could have been a lot more menacing) and sometimes annoying Spider-Man (I get is a kid but still) 

 

 

-          95/100

 

 

Panamovie

 

 

 

 

 

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Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

 

 

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User Reviews:

 

 

Really glad I did give it a second chance, because the Ultimate Edition is a pretty damn good film.

 

 

 

 

 

It's possible it doesn't need 3 hours to get the point across, and Batman still feels a little tacked on for the first couple acts, but since it has the room to breathe, all the plotlines and character motivations make sense.

 

 

 

 

 

I'd give it a 4/5, now.

 

 

-          DamienRoc

 

 ULTIMATE EDITION

 

 

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-          (in just copying and pasting my review from Letterboxd, can't be bothered to do a separate spoiler review - but accepting Qs!)

 

 

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-          Okay....I'll try keep this as story spoiler free when it comes to the new content as I can. Possible spoilers for those yet to even see the film - and I 1000% encourage the extended version to be your first viewing if so. 

The TL;DR version - best way to describe this is that it's not a completely different movie. It's a more complete, and definitely improved film. From the word go - so much more room to let the story breathe, and even by the extension everything that the story goes for is done justice better here.

The improvements: the thing about this is that it isn't just the theatrical cut with a bunch of extra scenes added on. Aside from the whole 3rd act (from end of BvS fight to epilogue - which, while being the weaker part of the film in this cut, oddly in the theatrical cut was the best paced part of the film), everything including existing theatrical cut scenes is expanded, changed up, in some cases early on even re-ordered. Most importantly, everything gets a whole lot more room to breathe, the pacing is much more even (which helps even moments like the infamous email scene which is in the same place as in the TC), and the editing and intercutting is miles better, scenes intercut and transition much more naturally and smoothly. You won't even care that there aren't that many more establishing shots even (a notable one was a nice one of Gotham early on). I was at first a bit unsure on how the wheels are spinning quite a bit but overall the very graceful build up to the conflicts is very much appreciated.

It's the same story - but it feels really quite differently executed, and for the better. There are expansions to story elements that really help make sense of a lot of the existing beats. Don't really wanna say more because spoilers, but yes, the additions help immensely.

Clark/Supes 
and Lois benefit the most from the new content. The balance between Bats and Supes is much more even as we get more to do, and both their storylines are really quite improved upon. There is more Supes as well, with moments that should quieten down the hate, and Bats gets a few more characterisation shades (including a, to me, very notable improvement as well, retconning a point that many at first considered to be a big problem). The new characters introduced, including Jena Malone's, while not really that big on screentime and as such easily expendable in the theatrical, are great to see and they help out overall with affecting expanded subplots. Lex is improved upon also, adding a touch of Frank Underwood as well (one of two Fincher homages, may be uninitentional) to his first-act arc with Senator Finch, and the other additions are very interesting too, but may not be for everyone due to the divisive reaction. I liked Eisenberg's take on Lex so to see more of it here was very welcome.

That third act is, for better or worse, weaker than the rest but still enjoyable to watch - probably a case of everything coming before that and the epilogue after being so good. One thing that peeves me, like in the theatrical cut, is how they tried to introduce a third act element in the build up to the big fight, but I guess all of this is something I can live with.

If you liked the theatrical cut on the first go, you'll love this. If you were on the fence/mixed on the theatrical cut primarily because of the execution issues (except runtime - because there are people for whom a 3 hour superhero blockbuster is too much), you'll likely come out enjoying this. If you didn't like the film the first time for more fundamental reasons like Snyder's vision for these characters and the places he's taking them and the overall story? You probably still come out disliking it.

EDIT: one more thing - there was something someone said about the theatrical cut being far too preoccupied with setting up a universe than it own story. Thankfully this cut does the film's own story justice for good (pun may or may not be intended).

8.5/10

 

 

-          Antovolk

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, grim22 said:

#22 (Tie)

 

 

At number 22 (i.e. 22 and 23), we have a tie. And what a fitting tie it is. The 2 movies also caused the blood pressure of the mods on this board to rise thanks to the unending fan wars we saw. Sometimes lists come up better than you can even plan them. The best thing is that I don’t even need to write 2 separate descriptions for the movies. So here goes:

 

 

A billionaire playboy superhero who wears an armored suit takes offense at the actions of a different superhero who wears Red and Blue and then they fight.

 

 

 

 

  Hide contents

Captain America: Civil War

N1EoZZv.jpg

SM2OCuR.png

 

 

 

 

User Reviews:

 

 

Saw this last night and enjoyed it very much. I would call it the best MCU movie so far. It's not as fun as IM1 or the first Avengers film, but it is a better movie overall. And unlike The Winter Soldier, this new film does not fall apart during the third act. It keeps the scale smaller during the big conflict at the end and it's not just a big CGI fest like TWS ended up. I really loved Spider-Man and Ant-Man. They added some much-needed humor after everything leading up their appearance was so serious. The Empire Strikes Back reference was awesome. The conflict between Tony and Steve was very well done. I'm curious to see where they take it from here.

 

 

-          Redfirebird

 

 

One of my favorites superheroes movies ever (at the moment only behind TDK and Winter Soldier)

 

 

Loved the characters development and the intelligent part of the movie not just nonsense action like Iron Man 3 and Ultron 

 

 

For me everything was perfect the only weakness I thing was the use of Zemo (he could have been a lot more menacing) and sometimes annoying Spider-Man (I get is a kid but still) 

 

 

-          95/100

 

 

Panamovie

 

 

 

 

 

  Hide contents

Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

 

 

Q7NEL7D.jpg

UMoqLgD.png

 

User Reviews:

 

 

Really glad I did give it a second chance, because the Ultimate Edition is a pretty damn good film.

 

 

 

 

 

It's possible it doesn't need 3 hours to get the point across, and Batman still feels a little tacked on for the first couple acts, but since it has the room to breathe, all the plotlines and character motivations make sense.

 

 

 

 

 

I'd give it a 4/5, now.

 

 

-          DamienRoc

 

 ULTIMATE EDITION

 

 

-           

 

 

-          (in just copying and pasting my review from Letterboxd, can't be bothered to do a separate spoiler review - but accepting Qs!)

 

 

-           

 

 

-          Okay....I'll try keep this as story spoiler free when it comes to the new content as I can. Possible spoilers for those yet to even see the film - and I 1000% encourage the extended version to be your first viewing if so. 

The TL;DR version - best way to describe this is that it's not a completely different movie. It's a more complete, and definitely improved film. From the word go - so much more room to let the story breathe, and even by the extension everything that the story goes for is done justice better here.

The improvements: the thing about this is that it isn't just the theatrical cut with a bunch of extra scenes added on. Aside from the whole 3rd act (from end of BvS fight to epilogue - which, while being the weaker part of the film in this cut, oddly in the theatrical cut was the best paced part of the film), everything including existing theatrical cut scenes is expanded, changed up, in some cases early on even re-ordered. Most importantly, everything gets a whole lot more room to breathe, the pacing is much more even (which helps even moments like the infamous email scene which is in the same place as in the TC), and the editing and intercutting is miles better, scenes intercut and transition much more naturally and smoothly. You won't even care that there aren't that many more establishing shots even (a notable one was a nice one of Gotham early on). I was at first a bit unsure on how the wheels are spinning quite a bit but overall the very graceful build up to the conflicts is very much appreciated.

It's the same story - but it feels really quite differently executed, and for the better. There are expansions to story elements that really help make sense of a lot of the existing beats. Don't really wanna say more because spoilers, but yes, the additions help immensely.

Clark/Supes 
and Lois benefit the most from the new content. The balance between Bats and Supes is much more even as we get more to do, and both their storylines are really quite improved upon. There is more Supes as well, with moments that should quieten down the hate, and Bats gets a few more characterisation shades (including a, to me, very notable improvement as well, retconning a point that many at first considered to be a big problem). The new characters introduced, including Jena Malone's, while not really that big on screentime and as such easily expendable in the theatrical, are great to see and they help out overall with affecting expanded subplots. Lex is improved upon also, adding a touch of Frank Underwood as well (one of two Fincher homages, may be uninitentional) to his first-act arc with Senator Finch, and the other additions are very interesting too, but may not be for everyone due to the divisive reaction. I liked Eisenberg's take on Lex so to see more of it here was very welcome.

That third act is, for better or worse, weaker than the rest but still enjoyable to watch - probably a case of everything coming before that and the epilogue after being so good. One thing that peeves me, like in the theatrical cut, is how they tried to introduce a third act element in the build up to the big fight, but I guess all of this is something I can live with.

If you liked the theatrical cut on the first go, you'll love this. If you were on the fence/mixed on the theatrical cut primarily because of the execution issues (except runtime - because there are people for whom a 3 hour superhero blockbuster is too much), you'll likely come out enjoying this. If you didn't like the film the first time for more fundamental reasons like Snyder's vision for these characters and the places he's taking them and the overall story? You probably still come out disliking it.

EDIT: one more thing - there was something someone said about the theatrical cut being far too preoccupied with setting up a universe than it own story. Thankfully this cut does the film's own story justice for good (pun may or may not be intended).

8.5/10

 

 

-          Antovolk

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This list is officially a Traveshamockery.   You didn't even use the Rotten Tomato or Metacritic Scores.

 

 


 

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1 minute ago, CoolioD1 said:

yeah, it's tv i know people have moaned about the movie love but eh who cares it rules. if i could've found a loophole for it i'd have voted for the ryan murphy show too.

Believe me if it wins best Doc it'll get no complaints from me.

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4 minutes ago, grim22 said:

#22 (Tie)

 

 

At number 22 (i.e. 22 and 23), we have a tie. And what a fitting tie it is. The 2 movies also caused the blood pressure of the mods on this board to rise thanks to the unending fan wars we saw. Sometimes lists come up better than you can even plan them. The best thing is that I don’t even need to write 2 separate descriptions for the movies. So here goes:

 

 

A billionaire playboy superhero who wears an armored suit takes offense at the actions of a different superhero who wears Red and Blue and then they fight.

 

 

 

 

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The ambient music for this countdown just got a little...Eisenbergy

 

 

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