BOT's Top 100 TV shows of all time Vol. 2 Not abandoned, will start countdown when I get a new Computer (hopefully soon) feel free to send lists for the time being

[Kalo]

Hell everyone! A couple of years ago @iceroll, did a pretty awesome job doing a countdown of the top 100 TV shows of all time. it had a pretty big turn out and I really enjoyed it but that was all the way back in 2014! tons of new shows have come out since then and have been awesome! not to mention there are several new members now who I'm sure would be interest.

 

I know this is mostly a movie board but there are a lot of people here who love a good series. not to mention I have seen quite a few new shows since then. You can PM me the lists if you'd like but feel free to post them as well, and if you do PM me maybe tell me here, because I have limited space in my mail and might not get it. So how about it guys go crazy and list those shows! 

 

So @baumer @ZappBrannigan @mahnamahna @peludo @grey ghost @Seth Irskens @ShouldIBeHere @Michael Gary Scott @Cedarpoint1111 @CoolioD1

@grim22 @darkelf @Jake Gittes @pepsa @DAR @Spidey Freak @RySenkari @James @4815162342 @The Stingray @snoopy995 @yads @langer

@Ethan Hunt @2 Panda 2 Furious @TalismanRing @chasmmi @AndyLL @Warhorse @Chinoiserie @Frozen @Empire @The47th @treeroy2 @SaintStarWarsArcher @Wrath @Simionski @Blankments @fmpro @Infernus

 

Please feel free to participate again!

 

Also @cannastop think you might enjoy this as well!
 

I know this is TV related, but I would like to ask if it could stay pinned in the Speakeasy for now, becuase so little traffic goes to the that area right now. @Tele Came Back @Water Bottle

 

Scoring is as follows: (please do lists within these guidelines, also please rank your list in order of which you liked them)  

 

List of 10:

Spoiler

1- 100
2- 85
3- 70
4- 55
5- 40
6- 30
7- 20
8- 10
9- 5
10- 1

 

List of 25:

Spoiler

1- 100 2. 90 3. 80 4. 70 5. 60 6-8- 50 9-12- 40 13-16- 30 17-20- 20 21- 15 22- 10 23- 5 24- 3 25- 1

List of 50:
 

Spoiler

1- 100 2- 95 3- 90 4- 85 5- 80 6- 75 7- 70 8- 65 9- 60 10- 50 11-15- 45 16-20- 40 21-25- 35 26-30- 30 31-35- 25 36-40- 20 41-43- 15 44-46- 10 47- 8 48- 5 49- 3 50- 1

List of 75:

Spoiler

 

1- 100 2- 98 3- 95 4- 93 5- 90 6- 88 7- 86 8- 84 9- 82 10- 80 11- 77 12- 74 13- 71 14- 68 15- 65 16- 62 17- 59 18- 56 19- 53 20- 50 21-25- 46 26-30- 42 31-35- 38 36-40- 34 41-45- 30 46-50- 25 51-55- 20 56-60- 15 61-65- 10 66-68- 8 69-71- 5 72- 4 73- 3 74- 2 75- 1
 

 

 

 

List of 100:

1- 100

2- 99

3- 98

...

100- 1

There is a tentative deadline of June 1st which should give plenty of time to catch up on some shows.

Edited August 25, 2017 by Kalo

[Ethan Hunt]

Oh yeah. I got my Robert/Michelle King stanning ready

[Kalo]

Here some FYC's in my humble opinion 

 

 

 

 

 

[grey ghost]

(My real list is on page 3)

 

FYC.

 

1...Rick and Morty

2..Legion
3..Twillight Zone
4..Batman the Animated Series
5..Chappelle Show 
6..South Park
7..The Simpsons
8..The Boondocks
9..Breaking Bad
10..The Sopranos

Edited June 7, 2017 by grey ghost

[Ethan Hunt]

hmmmm must figure out how to fill spots on my list after The Good Wife and Brain Dead

[yads]

Top 10:

 

10 Arrested Development

9 Deadwood

8 Fargo

7 Rick and Morty

6 Game of Thrones

5 Angel

4 Seinfeld

3 Battlestar Galactica

2 Buffy

1 The Wire

[WrathOfHan]

FYC:

 

 

 

 

[Infernus]

Why that scoring though? That scoring gives too much weight to the total number of shows you put in your list. The difference in the points for rank 10 from a list of 10 and that from a list of even the very next order - 25, is too much.

 

I see the sense in giving more worth to a bigger list as it might show that that lists maker must have had seen a lot more shows which does, ideally, mean that his rankings hold more value by default. But the difference in value is a little too much here. And anyways that point doesn't hold up perfectly here anyway. There could be loads of other reasons why someone made a smaller list such as scarcity of time. 

 

In the end its your list and your choice and I'll be submitting one anyway if I find the time but I really think we should have another scoring method.

 

[4815162342]

2 hours ago, Infernus said:

Why that scoring though? That scoring gives too much weight to the total number of shows you put in your list. The difference in the points for rank 10 from a list of 10 and that from a list of even the very next order - 25, is too much.

 

I see the sense in giving more worth to a bigger list as it might show that that lists maker must have had seen a lot more shows which does, ideally, mean that his rankings hold more value by default. But the difference in value is a little too much here. And anyways that point doesn't hold up perfectly here anyway. There could be loads of other reasons why someone made a smaller list such as scarcity of time. 

 

In the end its your list and your choice and I'll be submitting one anyway if I find the time but I really think we should have another scoring method.

 

 

Disagree completely. The shorter a list, the more likely it will have a disaparate and outsized impact on any final result if it is scored similarly to a more substantial list.

[Infernus]

12 hours ago, 4815162342 said:

 

Disagree completely. The shorter a list, the more likely it will have a disaparate and outsized impact on any final result if it is scored similarly to a more substantial list.

 

How/Why?

[4815162342]

1 hour ago, Infernus said:

 

How/Why?

 

Basically it rewards people who submit short lists by valuing each of their picks more.

 

For example, you have a list of 10 and a list of 100. If you use the same scoring system for both, you have a situation where the last place show on one list is worth 91, and the last place show on the other is worth 1. The last place ranking on a list should always be worth only 1, and you go from there.

[Infernus]

1 hour ago, 4815162342 said:

 

Basically it rewards people who submit short lists by valuing each of their picks more.

 

For example, you have a list of 10 and a list of 100. If you use the same scoring system for both, you have a situation where the last place show on one list is worth 91, and the last place show on the other is worth 1. The last place ranking on a list should always be worth only 1, and you go from there.

 

Yes, thats exactly what I have a problem with and what I pointed out in my post. Why so? Why must there be so much difference in the value given to the 10th ranked show of these two lists? 

 

In both the cases the 10th ranked show is the 10th best show that that person has ever seen. Lets say both the list's makers had seen an equal number of shows (which I believe is what we must assume since we have no other knowledge of this), the former having made a smaller list only because he had lesser free time and lesser excitement for this or something. In such a case why must a show deemed by one to be the 10th best they have ever seen be given lesser value than a show deemed the same by someone else just because they made a bigger list? 

 

Basically this deems the former's list worthless. His say on the 10th best show ever is worth only 1 point compared to the latter's 91. What's even the point of it then?

Edited April 26, 2017 by Infernus

[4815162342]

1 hour ago, Infernus said:

 

Yes, thats exactly what I have a problem with and what I pointed out in my post. Why so? Why must there be so much difference in the value given to the 10th ranked show of these two lists? 

 

In both the cases the 10th ranked show is the 10th best show that that person has ever seen. Lets say both the list's makers had seen an equal number of shows (which I believe is what we must assume since we have no other knowledge of this), the former having made a smaller list only because he had lesser free time and lesser excitement for this or something. In such a case why must a show deemed by one to be the 10th best they have ever seen be given lesser value than a show deemed the same by someone else just because they made a bigger list? 

 

Basically this deems the former's list worthless. His say on the 10th best show ever is worth only 1 point compared to the latter's 91. What's even the point of it then?

 

I disagree with your base assumptions.

 

Being ranked 10th out of 10 is functionally the same as 100th out of 100. Last place means last place. We shouldn't reward a last place show with more points simply because it's on a shorter list.

 

Assuming that the former person saw more but couldn't find time to make a more substantial list is bad policy for scoring. You have to make scoring rules that take into account people have seen more shows than others, and that not necessarily every show on a list is a show that the person is entirely fond of. 10th best on a list of 10 doesn't mean the person loved it.

[Kalo]

3 hours ago, Infernus said:

 

Yes, thats exactly what I have a problem with and what I pointed out in my post. Why so? Why must there be so much difference in the value given to the 10th ranked show of these two lists? 

 

In both the cases the 10th ranked show is the 10th best show that that person has ever seen. Lets say both the list's makers had seen an equal number of shows (which I believe is what we must assume since we have no other knowledge of this), the former having made a smaller list only because he had lesser free time and lesser excitement for this or something. In such a case why must a show deemed by one to be the 10th best they have ever seen be given lesser value than a show deemed the same by someone else just because they made a bigger list? 

 

Basically this deems the former's list worthless. His say on the 10th best show ever is worth only 1 point compared to the latter's 91. What's even the point of it then?

 

Infernus, I get where your coming from, and I had some reservations about how to score this, but I feel like based off of countdowns I've seen so far, this scoring is the most accurate, if someone can only put it a top 10 it most likely means they haven't seen nearly as many shows as someone who puts a top 100, also anyone can throw a top 10 down, putting a list of 100 is alot of work and there is usually more care that goes into those lists, and besides the #1 is still getting just as much weight no matter the list size.  I probably won't be able to put a top 100. I'll be lucky if I can make it to 75.

Edited April 26, 2017 by Kalo

[Infernus]

16 minutes ago, Kalo said:

 

Infernus, I get where your coming from, and I had some reservations about how to score this, but I feel like based off of countdowns I've seen so far, this scoring is the most accurate, if someone can only put it a top 10 it most likely means they haven't seen nearly as many shows as someone who puts a top 100, also anyone can throw a top 10 down, putting a list of 100 is alot of work and there is usually more care that goes into those lists, and besides the #1 is still getting just as much weight no matter the list size.  I probably won't be able to put a top 100. I'll be lucky if I can make it to 75.

 

Alright then. I still can't say I agree since it doesn't necessarily have to mean that the person with a bigger list has watched more shows but I'd rather not argue further. Its ok with me if that's how you want to do it.

[Kalo]

I know we are still over a month from the deadline, but seeing a couple lists submitted would really help boost my enthusiasm for this countdown, even just posting a placeholder post would be appreciated. 

[Eevin]

1 hour ago, Kalo said:

I know we are still over a month from the deadline, but seeing a couple lists submitted would really help boost my enthusiasm for this countdown, even just posting a placeholder post would be appreciated. 

Don't worry, I'll be doing this. I'm not starting now though, when I have over a month to work on it plus my own countdown to score.

I guess I'll put my placeholder here. 

[baumer]

I'll get on this on the weekend.

[baumer]

Top ten for me:

 

1) The Six Million Dollar Man

2) Friends

3) Seinfeld

4) The Walking Dead

5) Cheers

6) Dallas (80's)

7) The A-Team

8) Happy Days

9) Gilligan's Island

10) I love Lucy

[Walt Disney]

My Vote:

 

1. The Honeymooners

 

2. Seinfeld

 

3. Boy Meets World

 

4. Saved by the Bell

 

5. Family Matters

 

6. Full House

 

7. Diff’rent Strokes

 

8. Married With Children

 

9. Threes Company

 

10. The Dukes of Hazzard

 

11. Charles in Charge

 

12. The Jack Benny Program

 

13. Happy Days

 

14. All in the Family

 

15. Cheers

 

16. The Wonder Years

 

17. Step by Step

 

18. California Dreams

 

19. Friends

 

20. Doogie Howser, M.D.

 

21. Hang Time

 

22. Hangin’ with Mr. Cooper

 

23. Star Trek

 

24. Star Trek: The Next Generation

 

25. Law and Order: SVU

 

26. My Secret Identity

 

27. Out of this World

 

28. Small Wonder

 

29. Beverly Hills 90210

 

30. Game of Thrones

 

31. Parker Lewis Can’t Lose

 

32. TJ Hooker

 

33. 21 Jump Street

 

34. Family Ties

 

35. Growing Pains

 

36. The Fresh Prince of Bel-air

 

37. The Twilight Zone

 

38. Superboy (aka The Adventures of Superboy)

 

39. Batman

 

40. Bewitched

 

41. Melrose Place

 

42. The Brady Bunch

 

43. Gilligan’s Island

 

44. Night Court

 

45. Golden Girls

 

46. The Drew Carey Show

 

47. One Day at a Time

 

48. Home Improvement

 

49. The Facts of Life

 

50. Perfect Strangers

 

51.Taxi

 

52. Who’s the Boss

 

53. Mr. Belvedere

 

54. Herman’s Head

 

55. The George Burns and Gracie Allen Show

 

56. Roseanne

 

57. Law and Order

 

58. Mary Tyler Moore

 

59. I love Lucy

 

60. The Donna Reed Show

 

61. Get Smart

 

62. The Jeffersons

 

63. The Cosby Show

 

64. I Dream of Jeanie

 

65. Saturday Night Live

 

66. In Living Color

 

67. A Different World

 

68. The Odd Couple

 

69. Webster

 

70. JAG

 

71. Working

 

72. ALF

 

73. The A- Team

 

74. Knight Rider

 

75. Kate Allie

 

76. The Addams Family

 

77. The Munsters

 

78. Superboy (aka The Adventures of Superboy)

 

79. Modern Family

 

80. The Goldbergs

 

81. Petticoat Junction

82. Blossom

 

83. 227

 

84. The Beverly Hillbillies

 

85. Too Close for Comfort

 

86. The World According to Jim

 

87. The Dick Van Dyke Show

 

88. Leave it to Beaver

 

89. The Rifleman

 

90. Maverick

 

91. Daniel Boone

 

92. What’s Happening!!

 

93. Roc

 

94. Mighty Morphin Power Rangers

 

95. The Incredible Hulk

 

96. The Sopranos

 

97. Grace Under Fire

 

98. The Jeff Foxworthy Show

 

99. Mr. Ed

 

100. Sanford and Son

 

 

 

Edited April 28, 2017 by Walt Disney