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57 minutes ago, jandrew said:

The Promise story makes me wonder. Ive probably asked this before, but can one person manipulate box office? If Bill Gates loves Geostorm so much, can he buy $1 billion worth of tickets?

 

I know it wont be seen as legitamite, even though he legimately bought the tickets, but is this possible? 

 

@Rth and the Beast or others.

 

 

 

Money is money, I don't see why it wouldn't count. No one's been stupid/crazy enough to waste their money that way. 

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1 minute ago, Tele Came Back said:

 

Money is money, I don't see why it wouldn't count. No one's been stupid/crazy enough to waste their money that way. 

With music I've heard that there's a limit to bulk purchases that will count towards the Soundscan charts, something like 10 albums at a time. Don't know how true that is but it comes up on music forums. Obviously films are more likely to have group sales so I don't know how you'd measure if there are "too many" group sales or what.

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1 hour ago, jandrew said:

If Bill Gates loves Geostorm so much, can he buy $1 billion worth of tickets?

 

I would imagine he would finance the guy next movie, why would he care about the box office (and dilude is money to many party instead of giving it to the director/studio that made is movie ?)

 

But yes he certainly could, rich people do it to a smaller scale all the time, rich people bought tickets in bulk to church group for them to see Hidden Figures for free for example. You just do that but at a larger scale (he could buy a ticket to every US credit card older with an Xbox gold account for a movie for example as a promotion if he wanted, a bit like Apple did with a U2 album, I think it would be legal)

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1 hour ago, jandrew said:

The Promise story makes me wonder. Ive probably asked this before, but can one person manipulate box office? If Bill Gates loves Geostorm so much, can he buy $1 billion worth of tickets?

 

I know it wont be seen as legitamite, even though he legimately bought the tickets, but is this possible? 

 

@Rth and the Beast or others.

 

 

 

18 minutes ago, Tele Came Back said:

 

Money is money, I don't see why it wouldn't count. No one's been stupid/crazy enough to waste their money that way. 

 

It happened here last year, a church bought over 10 million tickets to make a religious movie the highest attended movie of all time in Brazil.

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9 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

 

 

It happened here last year, a church bought over 10 million tickets to make a religious movie the highest attended movie of all time in Brazil.

 

Thanks for this, this is what I wanted to know. What movie was it? BOM says Civil War was #1 for 2016.

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9 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

 

 

It happened here last year, a church bought over 10 million tickets to make a religious movie the highest attended movie of all time in Brazil.

 

Unless all their members attended, it wouldn't make it the highest attended, though, right? Just one with the most tickets sold. An interesting thing to have to clarify if we start getting into these unusual situations. 

 

On a smaller scale, it happens all the time with movies or sporting events. 

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7 minutes ago, jandrew said:

 

Thanks for this, this is what I wanted to know. What movie was it? BOM says Civil War was #1 for 2016.

 

In some market box office total and attendance can be a different ranking, because the average ticket cost change a lot for different movie.

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I don't know if this exists in the U.S but here in Sweden companies can get "company tickets" that they can give to their employees to see whatever they want for free. I've always wondered if all the revenue goes to the theater chain in those cases.

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30 minutes ago, cookie said:

I don't know if this exists in the U.S but here in Sweden companies can get "company tickets" that they can give to their employees to see whatever they want for free. I've always wondered if all the revenue goes to the theater chain in those cases.

 

I would imagine that it work a bit like when theater chain offer some kind of movie pass deal (see as many movie as you want for 30$ a month, with some big movies from time to time that will not accept the pass the first week of release).

 

You still use your pass to get a specific ticket for the specific movie you want to see at the door and studio get a percentage of the studio pass money relative to how much their movies were seen by movie pass users ?

 

 

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2 hours ago, grim22 said:

 

 

 

 

I don't agree with Jeff Bock here though, no one was going to finance an Armenian Genocide movie and the distribution would have been with a lot of strings attached. Sometimes a billionaire uses his money for a pet cause, that's all there is to it

 

 

 

 

That's an unbelievably short-sighted comment by Bock; just another example of how someone can be blind to the bigger picture by choosing to look at something only through a narrow lens.

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2 hours ago, jandrew said:

 

Thanks for this, this is what I wanted to know. What movie was it? BOM says Civil War was #1 for 2016.

The movie was The Ten Commandments. It had bunch of sellouts and set pre-sale records because of a large church company that bought all the tickets to make it the highest grossing brazillian film.

P.S: They distributed the tickets but most people didn't show up and there were a lot of empty rooms (that were supposed to full).

 

Fortunately, another local movie (My Mom is a Character 2) passed it and became the highest grossing brazillian movie without doing this.

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<<Last Weekend <Last Year View Index: By Year | By Weekend  
TW LW Title (click to view) Studio Weekend Gross % Change Theater Count / Change Average Total Gross Budget* Week #
1 1 The Fate of the Furious Uni. $38,408,415 -61.1% 4,329 +19 $8,872 $163,304,635 $250 2
2 2 The Boss Baby Fox $12,712,144 -20.6% 3,697 -46 $3,439 $136,954,014 - 4
3 3 Beauty and the Beast (2017) BV $9,662,645 -29.5% 3,315 -277 $2,915 $470,787,029 $160 6
4 5 Going in Style (2017) WB (NL) $4,910,895 -21.9% 3,038 -38 $1,616 $31,671,738 $25 3
5 4 Smurfs: The Lost Village Sony $4,880,377 -27.3% 2,737 -873 $1,783 $33,418,362 $60 3
6 N Born in China BV $4,790,367 - 1,508 - $3,177 $4,790,367 - 1
7 N Unforgettable (2017) WB $4,785,431 - 2,417 - $1,980 $4,785,431 $12 1
8 6 Gifted FoxS $4,558,508 +47.5% 1,986 +840 $2,295 $10,773,300 - 3
9 N The Promise (2017) ORF $4,095,718 - 2,251 - $1,820 $4,095,718 $90 1
10 28 The Lost City of Z BST $2,121,540 +1,825.6% 614 +610 $3,455 $2,270,953 - 2
11 N Phoenix Forgotten CLF $1,816,499 - 1,592 - $1,141 $1,816,499 $2.8 1
12 7 Get Out Uni. $1,668,555 -44.1% 965 -459 $1,729 $170,306,700 $4.5 9
13 9 The Case for Christ PFR $1,584,587 -42.6% 1,247 -139 $1,271 $11,361,296 - 3
14 10 Kong: Skull Island WB $1,491,445 -44.9% 1,203 -815 $1,240 $163,915,391 $185 7
15 12 The Zookeeper's Wife Focus $1,398,325 -30.9% 1,029 -28 $1,359 $13,162,475 - 4
16 8 Power Rangers (2017) LGF $1,365,550 -51.5% 1,292 -879 $1,057 $83,052,602 $100 5
17 N Free Fire A24 $994,431 - 1,070 - $929 $994,430 - 1
18 13 Logan Fox $972,143 -49.8% 754 -661 $1,289 $223,400,405 $97 8
19 11 Ghost in the Shell (2017) Par. $883,253 -64.2% 913 -1,222 $967 $39,114,757 $110 4
20 17 Colossal Neon $584,461 +28.7% 224 +126 $2,609 $1,357,566 - 3
21 19 Their Finest STX $533,013 +53.7% 176 +124 $3,028 $1,117,347 - 3
22 16 Life (2017) Sony $448,209 -29.1% 730 +125 $614 $29,321,719 $58 5
23 18 The LEGO Batman Movie WB $346,476 -8.0% 291 -53 $1,191 $174,319,215 $80 11
24 14 Your Name. FUN $336,855 -54.2% 168 -124 $2,005 $4,074,629 - 3
25 15 The Shack LG/S $276,259 -57.8% 374 -674 $739 $56,706,948 - 8
26 25 Hidden Figures Fox $183,793 +18.6% 160 -34 $1,149 $168,831,307 $25 18
27 21 CHiPs WB $162,596 -39.6% 245 -148 $664 $18,176,244 $25 5
28 20 Split Uni. $138,080 -50.9% 119 -9 $1,160 $137,991,460 $9 14
29 24 John Wick: Chapter Two LG/S $124,128 -24.3% 181 -27 $686 $91,970,516 - 11
30 30 Norman: The Moderate Rise and Tragic Fall of a New York Fixer SPC $124,125 +25.1% 18 +13 $6,896 $259,560 - 2
31 29 La La Land LG/S $98,594 -6.1% 148 -71 $666 $151,058,124 $30 20
32 23 Tommy's Honour RAtt. $79,511 -62.0% 89 -78 $893 $410,679 - 2
33 22 T2: Trainspotting TriS $78,876 -66.4% 160 -171 $493 $2,198,746 $18 6
34 31 A Dog's Purpose Uni. $75,605 -19.0% 122 -27 $620 $64,134,655 $22 13
35 26 Frantz MBox $71,980 -48.0% 72 -34 $1,000 $722,587 - 6
36 39 A Quiet Passion MBox $70,473 +53.8% 13 +7 $5,421 $147,890 - 2
37 32 Kedi Osci. $50,224 -42.9% 49 -38 $1,025 $2,460,692 - 11
38 33 Lion Wein. $48,238 -41.3% 82 -65 $588 $51,620,108 - 22
39 45 Cezanne et moi Magn. $40,615 +39.4% 29 +7 $1,401 $152,497 - 4
40 36 Rogue One: A Star Wars Story BV $40,126 -40.0% 71 -50 $565 $532,132,035 $200 19
41 43 Truman FR $34,099 +11.9% 18 +9 $1,894 $102,433 - 3
42 35 The Belko Experiment BH Tilt $31,740 -55.8% 47 -41 $675 $9,644,485 $5 6
43 N Citizen Jane IFC $31,451 - 2 - $15,726 $31,451 - 1
44 38 Sing Uni. $30,525 -50.6% 89 -43 $343 $270,282,845 $75 18
45 42 I am Not Your Negro Magn. $28,503 -9.6% 22 -5 $1,296 $7,014,658 - 12
46 48 Before I Fall ORF $23,747 +3.6% 70 - $339 $12,230,791 - 8
47 53 Chasing Trane: The John Coltrane Documentary Abr. $22,960 +38.1% 3 +2 $7,653 $49,456 - 2
48 34 Personal Shopper IFC $21,137 -70.8% 37 -48 $571 $1,229,599 - 7
49 51 Graduation IFC $20,271 +12.7% 15 +8 $1,351 $67,178 - 3
50 N Jeremiah Tower Orch. $20,268 - 2 - $10,134 $20,268 - 1
51 41 Moana BV $17,799 -46.2% 37 -28 $481 $248,752,120 - 22
52 49 A United Kingdom FoxS $16,667 -12.2% 25 -6 $667 $3,856,854 - 11
53 27 Spark: A Space Tail ORF $14,838 -87.3% 85 -280 $175 $190,511 - 2
54 47 Raw (2017) FCW $13,080 -43.6% 17 -15 $769 $486,849 - 7
55 50 Donnie Darko (2017 Re-Release) Arrow Films $12,944 -29.5% 4 -7 $3,236 $157,364 - 4
56 40 The Devotion of Suspect X CL $12,592 -69.8% 9 -12 $1,399 $686,435 - 4
57 54 David Lynch: The Art Life Jan. $11,013 -25.9% 7 - $1,573 $72,701 - 4
58 46 After the Storm FM $10,337 -59.4% 21 -17 $492 $224,207 - 6
59 55 My Entire High School Sinking Into the Sea GK $9,124 -33.3% 11 +8 $829 $28,960 - 2
60 - I Called Him Morgan SD $8,544 - 9 - $949 $97,711 - 5
61 56 The Prison WGUSA $8,382 -24.6% 2 - $4,191 $202,812 - 4
62 61 The Red Turtle SPC $7,976 -3.3% 14 -1 $570 $897,060 - 14
63 58 Moonlight (2016) A24 $7,880 -17.1% 12 - $657 $27,842,739 - 27
64 - Slack Bay KL $6,696 - 2 - $3,348 $11,410 - 7
65 69 Alive and Kicking Magn. $6,692 +97.6% 7 +2 $956 $34,067 - 3
66 52 Land of Mine SPC $5,802 -65.8% 14 -12 $414 $415,930 - 19
67 63 Toni Erdmann SPC $3,960 -16.6% 10 +4 $396 $1,466,232 - 18
68 75 Finding Oscar FR $3,927 +66.0% 4 +3 $982 $7,609 - 2
69 64 Julieta SPC $3,820 -15.3% 7 +1 $546 $1,483,417 - 18
70 73 20th Century Women A24 $3,675 +37.4% 7 - $525 $5,660,168 - 17
71 82 The Transfiguration Strand $3,023 +128.5% 3 +2 $1,008 $12,512 - 3
72 60 Neruda Orch. $2,874 -66.3% 6 -8 $479 $932,432 - 19
73 65 All These Sleepless Nights Orch. $2,494 -39.4% 4 -1 $624 $16,577 - 3
74 67 Glory (2017) FM $2,222 -40.2% 1 -1 $2,222 $9,010 - 2
75 N 7 Witches Indic. $1,875 - 1 - $1,875 $1,875 - 1
76 74 The Founder Wein. $1,859 -29.0% 8 -2 $232 $12,785,093 - 14
77 83 The Eyes PDF $1,720 +32.3% 3 +1 $573 $5,350 - 3
78 85 The Lure Jan. $1,717 +59.1% 1 - $1,717 $96,570 - 12
79 66 The Eagle Huntress SPC $1,467 -63.3% 3 -4 $489 $3,165,310 - 25
80 79 SHOT! The Psycho-Spiritual Mantra of Rock Magn. $1,310 -18.5% 2 +1 $655 $14,037 - 3
81 86 Swept Away (2017 re-release) KL $1,236 +22.3% 1 - $1,236 $2,247 - 2
82 80 Seven Beauties (2017 re-release) KL $1,095 -28.7% 1 - $1,095 $2,631 - 2
83 N The Penguin Counters FRun $976 - 1 - $976 $976 - 1
84 N Behind the White Glasses KL $900 - 1 - $900 $900 - 1
85 - The Dark Below PDF $825 - 1 - $825 $6,583 - 5
86 87 Massacre on Aisle 12 Indic. $697 -29.2% 1 - $697 $19,188 - 13
87 81 Donald Cried Orch. $647 -51.4% 7 -2 $92 $60,469 - 8
88 68 A Woman, a Part Strand $621 -83.1% 1 -1 $621 $21,686 - 5
89 94 Lovesong Strand $564 +15.8% 3 +2 $188 $10,545 - 10
90 - Staying Vertical Strand $452 - 1 - $452 $11,747 - 13
91 93 Contemporary Color Osci. $433 -14.6% 2 +1 $217 $15,275 - 8
92 89 Manchester by the Sea RAtt. $418 -41.7% 2 - $209 $47,695,120 - 23
93 78 Tim Timmerman, Hope of America Purd. $360 -78.8% 1 - $360 $97,629 - 8
94 - Pelle the Conqueror (2017 re-release) FM $329 - 2 - $165 $9,567 - 9
95 90 The Grace of Jake Indic. $275 -60.8% 1 - $275 $22,345 - 12
96 - The Levelling Mont. $78 - 1 - $78 $2,831 - 5
TOTAL (96 MOVIES): $107,493,981 -36.2% 40,146 +3,079 $2,678  
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3 hours ago, Tele Came Back said:

 

That's an unbelievably short-sighted comment by Bock; just another example of how someone can be blind to the bigger picture by choosing to look at something only through a narrow lens.

IDK...if the movie is crafted with a cause in mind it doesn't have to be made on a shoestring but there's no need to be wasteful, either. There's actually another movie that was released last month very similar to this one (including a love triangle) except funded by Turkish interests, so, extremely different (and controversial) POV being presented to say the least. But, anyway, I doubt that movie cost $90-100M. Is it shortsighted to wonder just what the budget was spent on, a massive scale in general, or, hand sewn costumes for the extras, executive producers with vanity credits paid exorbitant fees, crew members charging furniture for their homes as "miscellaneous" items on the budget? Is the feeling about the budget more that it was crazy to spend that much, or HOW could it have possibly cost that much, as in, where did all that money go?  Those are two different questions.

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7 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said:

Weird how a couple months back Disney seemed to be all set on fudging Moana past 250m and then they kinda just went eh, whatever. 

 

Yep. Sign of a confident studio. 

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Is fudging to 250m a thing ?

 

There is no movie ever at barely over 250, I don't think there is any tv contract bonus that kick in at 250m to have any reason to do it.

 

100 and 200m seem the only benchmark worthy of doing any unprofitable in theater return effort for TV deal.

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