Sunshine, Light, and Joy

 

This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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That One Valerian

Tulip Fever | August 25, 2017 | Weinstein | Alicia Vikander, Dane DeHaan, Zach Galifianakis, Judi Dench, Christoph Waltz, Cara Delevingne

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The long-delayed Weinstein film.  Let's rollll

 

Rated R for sexual content and nudity.

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Gotta say, I'm intrigued by the trailer.  Probably won't be a big hit, but it does look interesting and intriguing.  Might be good counter summer programming.

 

Terrific cast as well.

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Judi Dench

DeHaan

Vikander

Waltz

Delevigne

Galafinakis

 

I like the cast.

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Fully looking forward to when it eventually sees the light of day on Lifetime ala Grace of Monaco and Suite Francaise.

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I remember when this movie starred Jude Law & Kiera Knightly and was shut down after it was already in production due a change in the UK Film Tax Credit system in 2004

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In my summer game notes, I put it at 2,250 theaters opening week for $4,000 PSA.  9.00 Opening weekend + Previews for 35M total.  The main competition will be All Saints from Sony/Columbia which I have coming in higher than Tulip Fever.  Crown Heights got added, but it is distributed by IFC and is an Amazon Studios feature.  Expect a limited rollout for that.

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Just now, Matrix4You said:

In my summer game notes, I put it at 2,250 theaters opening week for $4,000 PSA.  9.00 Opening weekend + Previews for 35M total.  The main competition will be All Saints from Sony/Columbia which I have coming in higher than Tulip Fever.  Crown Heights got added, but it is distributed by IFC and is an Amazon Studios feature.  Expect a limited rollout for that.

This won't even make $2M if it actually gets released.

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1 minute ago, filmlover said:

This won't even make $2M if it actually gets released.

Closest comparison I made was The Other Boleyn Girl

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Hands of Stone got 2000 theaters last Summer from Weinstein.  Gold + Founder + Lion occupied over 3000 theaters combined this Winter.  I expect 2,250 locations for Tulip

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I know we aren't supposed to speculate from rumors and stuff but apparently this shit is a disasterrrrrrrrr.

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a Valerian reunion already? 

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Just now, Cmasterclay said:

I know we aren't supposed to speculate from rumors and stuff but apparently this shit is a disasterrrrrrrrr.

Fun fact: Alicia Vikander shot this before The Danish Girl.

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When was this shot? Summer 2014?

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3 hours ago, filmlover said:

This won't even make $2M if it actually gets released.

 

That's pretty pessimistic.

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1 minute ago, baumer said:

 

That's pretty pessimistic.

It's a Weinstein release that's been kicked around the release date schedule for years. No way this ends well.

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How bad can the actual film be though?

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3 hours ago, Matrix4You said:

In my summer game notes, I put it at 2,250 theaters opening week for $4,000 PSA.  9.00 Opening weekend + Previews for 35M total.  The main competition will be All Saints from Sony/Columbia which I have coming in higher than Tulip Fever.  Crown Heights got added, but it is distributed by IFC and is an Amazon Studios feature.  Expect a limited rollout for that.

I doubt it will get a wide release. 

 

2 hours ago, Arlborn said:

How bad can the actual film be though?

I don't think it's awful. At worst it's boring and badly edited. I bet it has been re-edited a million times-in the best Weinstein's fashion possible.

Some reactions here:

https://letterboxd.com/film/tulip-fever/reviews/by/activity/

Another person who watched it two years ago said that she liked it but it was tonally weird. 

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Dane DeHaan...Boy i thought he had it in him to be a future star but nah...Killing it with wrong choices. Has yet to surpass his acting in Chronicle. Say whatever you want about Trank but the guy extracted the best out of DeHaan...Maybe DeHaan needs Trank back in his life..Or Trank needs DeHaan? Confused.

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Dehaan will be fine. How can you say that he has made bad choices so far? I mean he worked with Gore verbinski in a film that tanked. I'm sure there's many people that would like to work with Gore verbinski. And then you get into a film that has Judi Dench and an All-Star cast and you call that a poor choice? I don't think it's a poor choice I think it has more to do with behind the scenes. 

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21 hours ago, Arlborn said:

How bad can the actual film be though?

As big a finaincial disaster as the subject it is about.......

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