BO Germany/Austria: Dune 2 fine 2nd weekend

[titanic2187]

3 hours ago, bruchav said:

No, France and Spain are good for superhero movies, Germany, Italy and Japan not.

No, they are just decent, france had avatar and titanic both above $140m, but it's almost unheard in france that a superhero movie to gross more than $40m,

Cap 3 grossed $23m in france in 2016 and that was the highest grossing superhero movies of the year while moana and rogue one were both approching $40m, even the revenant and ice age 5 made more than cap 3

 

how can u conclude that as good?

[IndustriousAngel]

Final weekend trend - holdovers up, WW down to 235k

[ttr]

Final weekend trend - holdovers up, WW down to 235k

More detailed numbers? Bitte?

[peludo]

6 hours ago, bruchav said:

No, France and Spain are good for superhero movies, Germany, Italy and Japan not.

Not so good. Last year, all Deadpool, BvS, Civil War and Suicide Squad did about 10-12m euros in Spain. In terms of market size it equates to about $200m in USA. Decent numbers, but nothing spectacular.

[Aristis]

On 17.6.2017 at 1:55 PM, TigerPaw said:

Wonder Woman is a movie about WW1... and some may say depicts Germany in Bad Light.

WOM may be good.. but if everyone exits and tell their friends that their country is put in bad light.. there will be no positive WOM effect.

 

8 hours ago, bruchav said:

But I really doubt that a movie that portrays Germany as the bad guys has no negative effect at the box office(in Germany).
 

 

I don't know if you know how this issue is treatened in Germany. Movies about WW1 and WW2 can be popular here, Inglourious Basterds had 2,15M admissions in 2009. Jewish slaught Nazi's in that movie...

And for me that movie tried not to blame Germans too much and it tried to show that not only Germans were guilty in the history (--> native american).

 

20 hours ago, George Parr said:

Doesn't change the fact that using WW1 was n idiotic idea.

I thought this would fit quite well as WW1 was a totally new sort of war, unseen until that.

[Aristis]

2 hours ago, ttr said:

More detailed numbers? Bitte?

 

Wonder Woman (235k)

Baywatch (210k) -12%

Pirates of the Caribbean 5 (175k) -22%

The Mummy (140k) -23%

All Eyez on Me (90k)

Mädelstrip (37,5k)

Diary of a Wimpy Kid (27,5k) +10%

GotG (25k) -29%

[IndustriousAngel]

preliminary weekend numbers as follows:

WW - 223k (Thu-Sun)

Bay - 213k

PotC5 - 175k

Mummy - 140k

Eyez - 95k

[PanaMovie]

Any possibility that WW can hava good legs as other countries?

[IndustriousAngel]

 

5 hours ago, PanaMovie said:

Any possibility that WW can hava good legs as other countries?

with Transformers next week, no I don't think so

 

btw, just saw the movie - I don't think the fact that Germans are the "bad guys" here makes much difference, it's probably just the combination of little known actors and little known heroine. The movie is actually ok, about on the level of the first Thor movie which faced the same difficulties with the myth/action clash.

[IndustriousAngel]

Germany's Top20 last weekend:

	title	admissions	th.	PTA	total adm.	total €	drop	week
1	Wonder Woman	222.252	563	395	256.522	2.853.124	-	1
2	Baywatch	212.392	638	333	1.253.701	10.514.432	-11	3
3	Pirates of the Caribbean 5	174.726	525	333	2.030.174	21.594.619	-22	4
4	The Mummy	138.868	625	222	387.067	4.291.933	-23	2
5	All Eyez on Me	94.283	176	536	94.283	939.292	-	1
6	Snatched	31.379	342	92	35.764	304.947	-	1
7	Diary of a Wimpy Kid 4	29.432	470	63	159.619	1.034.519	+20	3
8	Guardians of the Galaxy 2	25.247	266	95	2.442.640	26.773.080	-28	8
9	Hanni & Nanni	25.238	660	38	222.301	1.413.071	+3	4
10	Bob the Builder	17.996	397	45	21.540	138.864	-	1
11	Alien - Covenant	16.034	278	58	572.271	5.273.161	-45	5
12	In Zeiten des abnehmenden Lichts	15.321	127	121	111.010	870.624	-17	3
13	This Beautiful Fantastic	15.295	93	164	21.075	153.673	-	1
14	The Boss Baby	14.675	344	43	1.874.431	13.926.569	+6	12
15	Maria Mafiosi - Jeder sehnt sich nach Familie	10.953	125	88	13.050	103.741	-	1
16	The Smurfs 3	8.706	306	28	1.231.084	8.796.135	+4	11
17	King Arthur	8.333	180	46	501.389	5.206.209	-48	6
18	Richard the Stork	7.174	323	22	148.171	944.115	-7	6
19	The Dinner	5.897	64	92	21.109	170.776	-16	2
20	The Belko Experiment	5.777	59	98	16.509	107.422	-	1

 

As the increases among family stuff and general good holds indicate, weather was ok for theaters this time, which makes the Wonder Woman number look not very good. All Eyez on Me had the highest PTA but was very frontloaded. Among holdovers, King Arthur managed to make it to 500k total - I don't know about those sequels, doesn't look promising. Pirates 5 crossed 2mil total, the franchise ist still alive even when it will probably miss the blockbuster mark. … GotG2 is now the top performer among MCU movies but will also miss those 3mil. And Baywatch surprised with a fine hold, seems to have some decent WOM!

 

Next weekend: The fifth Transformers movie hits theaters … while the franchise showed a decline, it should still become #1 by a wide margin, an opening in the 500k range should be possible, maybe even more with Wonder Woman obviously not attractive to the action oriented crowd.

[IndustriousAngel]

Declining franchise, ok, but today's 8pm show for Transformers 5 is rather empty ... actually, shockingly so. 4 hours to go and only 1 (one) seat sold atm. For now, let's put a big question mark behind my 500k number: ?

(WW is not selling too hot either but has as least more than 20 bookings for the same slot)

 

 

[John Rambo]

1 hour ago, IndustriousAngel said:

Declining franchise, ok, but today's 8pm show for Transformers 5 is rather empty ... actually, shockingly so. 4 hours to go and only 1 (one) seat sold atm. For now, let's put a big question mark behind my 500k number: ?

(WW is not selling too hot either but has as least more than 20 bookings for the same slot)

 

 

Maybe this ones more of Walk-ins type of movie ???

[IndustriousAngel]

47 minutes ago, John Rambo said:

Maybe this ones more of Walk-ins type of movie ???

One surely hopes so (though I myself have no plans to watch it, ever). It may also be that the Wednesday start got a little hushed up, our usual opening day is Thursday. Still a bad sign if not even the core fanbase turns up for OD.

[John Rambo]

13 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:

One surely hopes so (though I myself have no plans to watch it, ever). It may also be that the Wednesday start got a little hushed up, our usual opening day is Thursday. Still a bad sign if not even the core fanbase turns up for OD.

How has this franchisee performed in Germany/Austria? 

[IndustriousAngel]

total admissions for the Transformer series in Germany - no blockbusters but solid performances:

T1: 1.511.919

T2: 1.908.646

T3: 2.573.619

T4: 2.507.644

 

all of them were summer openings, so pretty comparable. All of them had shitty multipliers, so a 500k OW would probably make T5 the worst performer in the series.

[IndustriousAngel]

First weekend estimates for Germany from insidekino.de, and the motto is "When Giants Fall":

 

#1: T5 - 375k (incl. Wed)

#2: WW - 140k (-35%)

#3: Bay - 120k (-45%)

#4: PotC5 - 85k (-50%)

#5: Mummy - 65k (-55%)

 

Roughly, we're down to half the admissions of T3 and 4. And that's a generous estimate for T5 if I look at yesterday's numbers ... weather seems to become more theater-friendly over the weekend. A bit surprised about WW's hold, I thought it would get hit a lot harder by T5 - let's see if that number holds. And Baywatch might come in higher once more, seems to be a Sat or Sun kind of movie.

[titanic2187]

11 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:

First weekend estimates for Germany from insidekino.de, and the motto is "When Giants Fall":

 

#1: T5 - 375k (incl. Wed)

#2: WW - 140k (-35%)

#3: Bay - 120k (-45%)

#4: PotC5 - 85k (-50%)

#5: Mummy - 65k (-55%)

 

Roughly, we're down to half the admissions of T3 and 4. And that's a generous estimate for T5 if I look at yesterday's numbers ... weather seems to become more theater-friendly over the weekend. A bit surprised about WW's hold, I thought it would get hit a lot harder by T5 - let's see if that number holds. And Baywatch might come in higher once more, seems to be a Sat or Sun kind of movie.

Love to see that the figure from all over the world are dropping hard from the last one, except china

WW deserve that unexpected hold, it's really a good film

[IndustriousAngel]

2nd estimate ... T5 still at 375k, but as expected WW is lower and Baywatch a bit higher now, by Sunday they'll probably have switched places.

[Aristis]

Diary of a Wimpy Kid does extremely well here 2nd Trend has it at 25k, down only 14%!!! Can't understand that...

 

WW drop is >40% now 125k... But that seems to be the average drop this weekend (beside the one above...) so still OK I think, as long as it doesn't drop further as the weekend goes...

[KeepItU25071906]

7 minutes ago, Aristis said:

WW drop is >40% now 125k... 

Germany + CBM doesn't equal "love"(