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[YM!]

While I am excited and will see Coco, the trailer has more of a teaser feel than a trailer. 

[cannastop]

Just now, YourMother said:

http://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/23420-not-in-love-with-the-coco-coco-under-225m-domestic/?do=getNewComment

 

I'm thinking more like under $185m.

[Morieris]

6 minutes ago, Jayhawk said:

Pixar films almost always have subpar trailers. Looks good to me though.

 

The initial teaser for Brave is still probably my favorite thing from the entire project. 

[YM!]

3 minutes ago, cannastop said:

I'm thinking more like under $185m.

Yeah. Disney (like TGD and Moana) will probably give it a lot less marketing in favor of Thor and Jedi. Depending on how The Star looks it could outgross it. But still thinking $45M/$70M/$205M for this.

[AniNate]

I don't think any of the reaction shots in the trailer are actually triggered by the boy's presence, they've just been edited that way to make it clear in the trailer that he's in a foreign world.

[Jonwo]

Just now, YourMother said:

Yeah. Disney (like TGD and Moana) will probably give it a lot less marketing in favor of Thor and Jedi. Depending on how The Star looks it could outgross it. But still thinking $45M/$70M/$205M for this.

 

The Star won't beat Coco, It'll be lucky to do even half of what Coco does.

[YM!]

Just now, Jonwo said:

 

The Star won't beat Coco, It'll be lucky to do even half of what Coco does.

Many said the same about Sing beating Moana. Still think Coco will outgross it by $50M domestic, but it depends on how it looks.

[cannastop]

2 minutes ago, tribefan695 said:

I don't think any of the reaction shots in the trailer are actually triggered by the boy's presence, they've just been edited that way to make it clear in the trailer that he's in a foreign world.

Really? A few of them obviously are.

[aabattery]

Just now, YourMother said:

Many said the same about Sing beating Moana. Still think Coco will outgross it by $50M domestic, but it depends on how it looks.

 

Sony Pictures Animation =! Illumination.

 

[AniNate]

5 minutes ago, cannastop said:

People keep on saying that, but I think that this trailer gave away a lot more meat than the comparable Inside Out trailer.

 

You talking about this one?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seMwpP0yeu4

 

Because it has a pretty similar happy-go-lucky tone and doesn't give much of a hint to how hard Riley's depression was going to hit.

[Jonwo]

Just now, YourMother said:

Many said the same about Sing beating Moana. Still think Coco will outgross it by $50M domestic, but it depends on how it looks.

 

Illumination is a much bigger brand than SPA. 

[cannastop]

2 minutes ago, YourMother said:

Many said the same about Sing beating Moana. Still think Coco will outgross it by $50M domestic, but it depends on how it looks.

More like outgross it by $100m. The Star isn't from Illumination, after all.

[cannastop]

2 minutes ago, tribefan695 said:

 

You talking about this one?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seMwpP0yeu4

 

Because it has a pretty similar happy-go-lucky tone and doesn't give much of a hint to how hard Riley's depression was going to hit.

Well, I got my trailers mixed up. Looking back now, that trailer seems fair to me. It still presents Inside Out as an interesting movie.

[AniNate]

5 minutes ago, cannastop said:

Really? A few of them obviously are.

 

He's not in the shot in either reaction (plus it didn't seem the others walking by on that orange bridge thingy thought much of him). I suppose the dog will be relied on for a lot of slapstick, though.

[YM!]

16 minutes ago, aabattery said:

 

Sony Pictures Animation =! Illumination.

 

 

13 minutes ago, cannastop said:

More like outgross it by $100m. The Star isn't from Illumination, after all.

 

15 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

 

Illumination is a much bigger brand than SPA. 

Still think Coco is going be over The Star ($180M-$225M > $85M-$170M) but it wouldn't be the first time a non Illumination animated film outgrossed a Pixar movie during the holiday.

 

The Good Dinosaur
 

Domestic Total Gross: $123,087,120 Distributor: Buena Vista Release Date: November 25, 2015 Genre: Animation Runtime: 1 hrs. 40 min. MPAA Rating: PG Production Budget: N/A   The Peanuts Movie   Domestic Total Gross: $130,178,411 Distributor: Fox Release Date: November 6, 2015 Genre: Animation Runtime: 1 hrs. 33 min. MPAA Rating: G Production Budget: $99 million

Edited June 8, 2017 by YourMother

[AniNate]

10 minutes ago, cannastop said:

Well, I got my trailers mixed up. Looking back now, that trailer seems fair to me. It still presents Inside Out as an interesting movie.

 

Whatever you're comparing it to I don't think there's enough here to make a snap judgment on. It's not even 90 seconds long and has the awkward, shallow editing of a TV spot. It's certainly not going to be the final trailer.

 

 

Edited June 8, 2017 by tribefan695

[aabattery]

8 minutes ago, YourMother said:

 

 

Still think Coco is going be over The Star ($180M-$225M > $90M-$170M) but it wouldn't be the first time a non Illumination animated film outgrossed a Pixar movie during the holiday.

 

The Good Dinosaur
 

Domestic Total Gross: $123,087,120 Distributor: Buena Vista Release Date: November 25, 2015 Genre: Animation Runtime: 1 hrs. 40 min. MPAA Rating: PG Production Budget: N/A   The Peanuts Movie   Domestic Total Gross: $130,178,411 Distributor: Fox Release Date: November 6, 2015 Genre: Animation Runtime: 1 hrs. 33 min. MPAA Rating: G Production Budget: $99 million

 

Even then, I'd struggle to say that Sony Animation is up to par with Blue Sky.

 

Sony Pictures Animation

 

• Total Grosses
• Opening Weekends

 

Blue Sky   Total Grosses Opening Weekends   Rank Title (click to view) Studio Gross / Theaters Opening / Theaters Date 1 Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs Fox $196,573,705 4,102 $41,690,382 4,099 7/1/09 2 Ice Age: The Meltdown Fox $195,330,621 3,969 $68,033,544 3,964 3/31/06 3 Ice Age Fox $176,387,405 3,345 $46,312,454 3,316 3/15/02 4 Ice Age: Continental Drift Fox $161,321,843 3,886 $46,629,259 3,881 7/13/12 5 Dr. Seuss' Horton Hears a Who! Fox $154,529,439 3,961 $45,012,998 3,954 3/14/08 6 Rio Fox $143,619,809 3,842 $39,225,962 3,826 4/15/11 7 Rio 2 Fox $131,538,435 3,975 $39,327,869 3,948 4/11/14 8 The Peanuts Movie Fox $130,178,411 3,902 $44,213,073 3,897 11/6/15 9 Robots Fox $128,200,012 3,776 $36,045,301 3,776 3/11/05 10 Epic Fox $107,518,682 3,894 $33,531,068 3,882 5/24/13 11 Ice Age: Collision Course Fox $64,063,008 3,997 $21,373,064 3,992 7/22/16 TOTAL: $1,589,261,370 - - - - AVERAGE: $144,478,306 3,877 $41,944,998 3,867 -

Rank	Title (click to view)	Studio	Gross / Theaters		Opening / Theaters		Date
1	Hotel Transylvania 2	Sony	$169,700,110	3,768	$48,464,322	3,754	9/25/15
2	Hotel Transylvania	Sony	$148,313,048	3,375	$42,522,194	3,349	9/28/12
3	The Smurfs	Sony	$142,614,158	3,427	$35,611,637	3,395	7/29/11
4	Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs	Sony	$124,870,275	3,119	$30,304,648	3,119	9/18/09
5	Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2	Sony	$119,793,567	4,001	$34,017,930	4,001	9/27/13
6	Open Season	Sony	$85,105,259	3,833	$23,624,548	3,833	9/29/06
7	Goosebumps	Sony	$80,080,379	3,618	$23,618,556	3,501	10/16/15
8	The Smurfs 2	Sony	$71,017,784	3,867	$17,548,389	3,866	7/31/13
9	Surf's Up	Sony	$58,867,694	3,531	$17,640,249	3,528	6/8/07
10	Arthur Christmas	Sony	$46,462,469	3,376	$12,068,931	3,376	11/23/11
11	Smurfs: The Lost Village	Sony	$44,035,646	3,610	$13,210,449	3,610	4/7/17
12	The Pirates! Band of Misfits	Sony	$31,051,126	3,358	$11,137,734	3,358	4/27/12

 

I really just don't see why The Star would perform better than Sony's other stuff.

Edited June 8, 2017 by aabattery

[That One Girl]

Just now, aabattery said:

 

Even then, I'd struggle to say that Sony Animation is up to par with Blue Sky.

Rank	Title (click to view)	Studio	Gross / Theaters		Opening / Theaters		Date
1	Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs	Fox	$196,573,705	4,102	$41,690,382	4,099	7/1/09
2	Ice Age: The Meltdown	Fox	$195,330,621	3,969	$68,033,544	3,964	3/31/06
3	Ice Age	Fox	$176,387,405	3,345	$46,312,454	3,316	3/15/02
4	Ice Age: Continental Drift	Fox	$161,321,843	3,886	$46,629,259	3,881	7/13/12
5	Dr. Seuss' Horton Hears a Who!	Fox	$154,529,439	3,961	$45,012,998	3,954	3/14/08
6	Rio	Fox	$143,619,809	3,842	$39,225,962	3,826	4/15/11
7	Rio 2	Fox	$131,538,435	3,975	$39,327,869	3,948	4/11/14
8	The Peanuts Movie	Fox	$130,178,411	3,902	$44,213,073	3,897	11/6/15
9	Robots	Fox	$128,200,012	3,776	$36,045,301	3,776	3/11/05
10	Epic	Fox	$107,518,682	3,894	$33,531,068	3,882	5/24/13
11	Ice Age: Collision Course	Fox	$64,063,008	3,997	$21,373,064	3,992	7/22/16
TOTAL:			$1,589,261,370	-	-	-	-
AVERAGE:			$144,478,306	3,877	$41,944,998	3,867	-

Sony Pictures Animation

 

• Total Grosses
• Opening Weekends

 

Rank	Title (click to view)	Studio	Gross / Theaters		Opening / Theaters		Date
1	Hotel Transylvania 2	Sony	$169,700,110	3,768	$48,464,322	3,754	9/25/15
2	Hotel Transylvania	Sony	$148,313,048	3,375	$42,522,194	3,349	9/28/12
3	The Smurfs	Sony	$142,614,158	3,427	$35,611,637	3,395	7/29/11
4	Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs	Sony	$124,870,275	3,119	$30,304,648	3,119	9/18/09
5	Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2	Sony	$119,793,567	4,001	$34,017,930	4,001	9/27/13
6	Open Season	Sony	$85,105,259	3,833	$23,624,548	3,833	9/29/06
7	Goosebumps	Sony	$80,080,379	3,618	$23,618,556	3,501	10/16/15
8	The Smurfs 2	Sony	$71,017,784	3,867	$17,548,389	3,866	7/31/13
9	Surf's Up	Sony	$58,867,694	3,531	$17,640,249	3,528	6/8/07
10	Arthur Christmas	Sony	$46,462,469	3,376	$12,068,931	3,376	11/23/11
11	Smurfs: The Lost Village	Sony	$44,035,646	3,610	$13,210,449	3,610	4/7/17
12	The Pirates! Band of Misfits	Sony	$31,051,126	3,358	$11,137,734	3,358	4/27/12

I really just don't see why The Star would perform better than Sony's other stuff.

 

tfw your highest grossing film is Hotel Transylvania 2

[Water Bottle]

1 hour ago, That One Guy said:

 

Might be the only animated film I see in theaters for the rest of the year. Looks good, can't wait.

[AniNate]

22 minutes ago, Morieris said:

 

The initial teaser for Brave is still probably my favorite thing from the entire project. 

 

I might just be supporting your point saying this but even with that people were grumbling "Looks bland. Where's the story?". I don't think it's actually possible for Pixar to cut a trailer that everyone loves (unless they have low expectations like with Cars 3).